The Witnesses equate meeting attendance with worship. So, in their mind, if one stops attending the meetings they also stop serving Jehovah. That is why some faders attend a meeting now and then as it seem to placate the judgement from them.
zarco
Posts by zarco
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20Why is the act of stopping meeting attendance so significant?
by dozy inone aspect of the leaving jw process has long puzzled me why can a fading jw become mentally disinterested , miss loads of meetings , become irregular in the ministry , perhaps even become involved in minor worldly conduct without too much concern from relatives or the elders over a period of years , even decades.
yet as soon as they make it become known that they are not going to the meetings anymore, all hell breaks loose.
elders dust down their od books and come calling on shepherding visits , perhaps for the first time for many years.
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What Did You Have For Dinner? Thread
by Yizuman inwife and i had steak, baked potatoes and peas.
wife also had before dinner was sald w/ ranch dressing w/ bacon bits.
(edit, forgot the bits).
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zarco
Leolaia - We love eating in the City. We have not been to the Tadich Grill although a couple of our favorite places are in the Financial District. We get in a rut and end up going to the same 4 or 5 places. Now that we are not so busy on Saturday mornings we get to enjoy the Farmer’s Market, both the one in the City and in our little town.
It would have been fun to watch the young boy eat a 3/4 lb. burger. I am sure he will have a story to tell his friends when he gets back home. We have a special event coming up and we are going to the House of Prime Rib. It will be my first time there. I will probably eat too much, oh well.
We do get to the South Bay from time to time. If traffic is light we are really close. Let’s try to get together in the fall when your schedule eases up. You are welcome up our way and we are more than happy to head down your way.
All the best,
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Do you pray these days?
by highdose ini was wondering if anyone here prays anymore?
what do you call god?
what role do you think god plays in your life?
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zarco
Captain Dan,
I am sorry about your brother. I hope as time passes that the pain fades while the memories stay vivid.
zarco
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Hey...no more lurking...
by pmgirl inhey,.
this is my first post on this forum after months of reading and lurking on here.
i'm glad to be able to say that my husband and i finally sent our letter saying we want out and are wait to hear back for a potential jc meeting--that we won't be attending.. we had so many doubts it was impossible for us to continue living the lie.
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pmgirl,
Welcome. You are very brave to provide a letter. It is a courageous act. You now have 99.7 percent of the population to build new friendships and relationships. All the best to you!
zarco
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Do you pray these days?
by highdose ini was wondering if anyone here prays anymore?
what do you call god?
what role do you think god plays in your life?
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zarco
I dont pray anymore unless we have Witnesses at our home. Then I usually pray before the meal or ask someone to do so. I too had what I thought was a very strong relationship with god. I felt his guidance in my life and in making difficult decisions. I still believe in the possiblility that he is real and actually am hopeful. Sadly, evidence of his existence seems a little in short supply. I try to remain humble enough that if evidence is presented I will respond. The only time I miss praying is when I worry about our children. It always seemed comforting to me to pray for their protection.
zarco
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Ruining the Earth
by zarco inan interesting quote from the august 24 newsweek on page 66. .
"over the past three decades america's rivers, lakes and skies have been transformed.
acid rain levels have dropped 60 percent since the early 1990s; air quality has improved 91 percent since 1980 in terms of lead content.
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WTWizard- And think of all the gasoline burned, cars worn out, and tire polution resulting from the door to door ministry.
Villabolo - the life expectancy change is dramatic when compared to prior centuries. I think the old zarco would be about dead by now if I lived in the middle ages and darn near dead if I lived in the 1800s. Bottom line the health, economy, life-span of the world is at an all time high. Environmentaly the world is much improved over the past 50 years - but still there is much work to do in this area.
zarco
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What Did You Have For Dinner? Thread
by Yizuman inwife and i had steak, baked potatoes and peas.
wife also had before dinner was sald w/ ranch dressing w/ bacon bits.
(edit, forgot the bits).
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Ruining the Earth
by zarco inan interesting quote from the august 24 newsweek on page 66. .
"over the past three decades america's rivers, lakes and skies have been transformed.
acid rain levels have dropped 60 percent since the early 1990s; air quality has improved 91 percent since 1980 in terms of lead content.
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zarco
Leaving,
Just read your post on life expectancy. Interesting times to be predicting the world's demise.
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Ruining the Earth
by zarco inan interesting quote from the august 24 newsweek on page 66. .
"over the past three decades america's rivers, lakes and skies have been transformed.
acid rain levels have dropped 60 percent since the early 1990s; air quality has improved 91 percent since 1980 in terms of lead content.
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zarco
An interesting quote from the August 24 Newsweek on page 66.
"Over the past three decades America's rivers, lakes and skies have been transformed. Acid rain levels have dropped 60 percent since the early 1990s; air quality has improved 91 percent since 1980 in terms of lead content. the Hudson River is much much cleaner that its been in 100 years".
When you add to that quote the expanding lifespan of humans in this generation, a pretty darn good case could be made that the world is getting to be a much better place to live.
It must be tough for those waiting for critical times to see such massive progress.
Zarco
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Do You Care What Happens To Indiviual JWs At This Point In Time?
by minimus inother than possibly family members, do you care what happens to those you called "brothers and sisters"?.
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zarco
Yes, I care very much.
Individual members are victims of poor policy and beliefs. And if one follows the "Witness way" to the letter of the law they can be damaged emotionally, intellectually and even physically. I think one of the most dangerous aspects of the religion is when the Governing Body's sayings are put on the same level as bible teachings - things like moral guidance and other good things - (ie. not murder, not commit adultery, etc) and then one finds the saying of the Governing Body change or are wrong, then one begins to question everything about the bible, morals and other standards. This leads to some pretty messed up lives for some and for a few some pretty bad behavior. I am not suggesting that all fall into that trap. But it seems that the young people are really affected once they learn that all that they have been told to trust completely is not all true.
I have deep feelings for individual Witnesses, they are victims and do not have the opportunity to debate of question policy and beliefs. We help all that our circumstances allow us to do.
