Posts by OnTheWayOut

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

OnTheWayOut

You have a distinct lack of reading comprehension.

I have already given you your victory in that nothing can penetrate your views, your mind like a steel trap has closed. But that isn't enough for you. So lets clear this up so you can fully enjoy believing that you proved your point.

The bible is inarguably considered to be the holy text of christians and jews. It's not the holy text of any other religions.

You seem to think you are pinging me on not understanding your claims. Well, if so then you misspoke here.

Of course I didn't think you were saying that ALL PEOPLE (or even a majority of ALL PEOPLE) consider the Bible to be the holy text of Christians and Jews. I mean- so many people consider the Bible to be the writings of men. So I figured you must have been trying to say that Christians and Jews consider the Bible to be holy texts.

It depends on which writings and which groups of Christians and Jews we are talking about. But the Bible is definitely not unarguably considered to be the holy text of Christians and Jews, The Bible is considered to be "BELIEVED TO BE HOLY" by Christians and Jews. But so many people do not consider it the holy text of Christians and Jews. That means it is not inarguable.

So forgive my reading comprehension problem. It was in the way your wrote, not the person reading it.

I doubt you will see where you misspoke, but will just add this to your great victory.

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

OnTheWayOut

Really, I am arguing same old same olds here. Good day. I already gave you your victory. Good day. Sorry to be dragged back in.

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Is there a way back?

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

think this night about former and current leadership of jw.org, and the use of multimedia and broadcasting, imaging a theodore jaracks kind of gb member would be chosen again.. is there a way back possibility for jw.org to end all the multimedia circus and a go of the radar for the gb again?.

a one way street?.

g..

OnTheWayOut

there is a way back. But because of permanent records on the internet, the only way back would seem to have to denounce the deviation of purpose that the current Bozos have taken their organization.

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

OnTheWayOut

You miss the point. I am not included in your argument group. You are saying that something is inarguable if we only stay exclusive to Christians and Jews.

I am saying that there is a group not arguing that something is a holy text and there is a group not arguing that Watchtower is the correct beliefs, but that doesn't make their claim "inarguable" if people outside the group want to argue about the text being holy or the Watchtower being correct beliefs.

I can find a group that unarguably declares the Bible to be words of men only. I could probably even find a group larger than the number of Christians and Jews in your group- the two thirds of the planet not part of your group. It matters not. It is not inarguable.

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

OnTheWayOut

inarguable: certain or clearly true, not open to argument, doubt, or question.

Yeah, even Christians and Jews argue over it. But I know what you are saying. Still, the printed word of Watchtower is unarguably the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses. So to be so exclusive as to who is allowed to argue a point is not acceptable to me. Good luck with that.

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Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.

quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.

especially for the first sister they talk about!.

OnTheWayOut

Did they ever discuss how these guys themselves can sit at a cart with the lady short on hours and get the hours?

I agree that discontinuance of pioneer service can be a relief from stress. But I also get that they make these people feel guilty that they are not pioneers or guilty that they fall short on the hours.

How about "Congratulations Sister, we have granted you relief." ?

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

OnTheWayOut

OnTheWayOut...

Duck and run...Classic.

Yeah fine. No matter what valid points are made, you will declare victory. So enjoy.
I just don't need to be another voice trying to tell you that various people interpret the Bible in various ways. It's already pointed out to you that some declare OT writings to apply to "Israel" and not "Messiah" (or the personification of the principle of light). But nope, it all points to Jesus. I am not going to bother joining the chorus because you go too far to say that my even talking about it, knowing about it, is proof that it is "from God." WOW, YOU WIN!

You are just too not ready to have real discussions. Nope, you win no matter what. The Bible proves the Bible is from God. It doesn't approve rape and subservience of women or slavery. Anywhere it couldn't be literal, of course it was symbolic. And of course it cannot be made to say anything as the atheists say, but only says what your Christianity says it says.

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

OnTheWayOut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt3lDso0wIk

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

OnTheWayOut

Now you spin it around to accuse me of spinning it around. Classic.

"The very fact that [I] have an opinion about Jesus' claim to be God's Messiah PROVES the validity of the OT scripture that says 'the people have seen a great light'".

I have an opinion about Mohammed abd Vishnu and others....but I am not on a Muslim debate forum or other forum dealing with non-Christian cults.

People living before the NT was writen were without the Messiah yet they could have a clue about the contents of the OT. I left a group that insisted I need someone else to understand the Bible.

And by your own logic- The fact that people believe in any of the gods of the world is some kind of proof of their validity.

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Jesus fulfilling old testament prophecies like his legs not being broken

by Isambard Crater in

what are everyone's thoughts on this, how his legs weren't broken, he was pierced with a spear and he wore a thorny crown?.

i'm pimo and very much not wanting to believe, but like the daniel statue prophecies, these ones about jesus stick in my mind and give me "hmmm, maybe" moments..

OnTheWayOut

Dear myelaine,

There are various belief statements that can be said of Islam, Thor, Isis, any number of gods that would go the same way as saying "The very fact that you have an opinion ...."

Your statements show how closed your mind is...and how you try to spin it around on unbelievers.

So I am not interested in a new debate with someone like that. Good day.