Good point, Steve2.
Dagney, I think some will get curious and view the ARC videos. Who knows? It's a crap shoot.
Introvert2, that's a great story. I am glad to facilitate your telling it. It is tough to decide on the "cheer or cry" thing. Sometimes one for me, sometimes the other.
OnTheWayOut
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JW's on my front sidewalk
by OnTheWayOut inso last weekend, the jw's ring the bell and my wife answers.
we live in a heavily spanish neighborhood but don't really speak spanish.
i thought my wife was quite clear that she is a "sister" to them, but maybe the one in charge of the group didn't get the message.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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Oh, and I am an author. If you wanna buy my 1st book, great. If you want to send me money encouraging me to write "Fade from the Truth, the Aftermath" I will set up a gofundme page. I do my best writing under a shady palm tree on a particular beach in St. Thomas. I can't get it done if I have to go to work and live in the cold.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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I defend their right to support him, but I hope they defend my right to blast him for making such a request in a self-idolizing way.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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If dude did something awful that's sad and I hope he turns things around or already has if it was something in the distant past.
Just for the record, my take on Lloyd is that he made terrible mistakes and his apology was basically, "Even though I argued with you all, you still disagree with me. No wrongdoing took place, but if it did, everything was someone else's fault. You all want me to admit my fault. Well, here is your apology even though I still never admitted any wrongdoing."
It reminds me of the man on trial for raping a girl who tells the judge, "I am being framed, I wasn't in town. I never even met that girl. Besides, she was not raped, she was willing. And that isn't the same girl I raped anyway."
Even at that, he could slowly possibly show that he has changed and some might let it go. But not by soliciting funds ths way.
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Does a jw have to miss counting time for 6 months to be inactive
by blondie inhow many months consecutively does a jw have to miss turning in time to be inactive?.
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6 or 12, Blondie. We still qualify.
But it would be a significant change. I could see them slowly change the rules to manufacture fake higher numbers for publishers.
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JW's on my front sidewalk
by OnTheWayOut inso last weekend, the jw's ring the bell and my wife answers.
we live in a heavily spanish neighborhood but don't really speak spanish.
i thought my wife was quite clear that she is a "sister" to them, but maybe the one in charge of the group didn't get the message.
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Flipper, page 3
Hey, I know JW1 was an elder, JW2 may have been an MS. I was there. I felt strong enough in my own JW spirituality to freely research. And many mainstream references can be found. One never knows.
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JW's on my front sidewalk
by OnTheWayOut inso last weekend, the jw's ring the bell and my wife answers.
we live in a heavily spanish neighborhood but don't really speak spanish.
i thought my wife was quite clear that she is a "sister" to them, but maybe the one in charge of the group didn't get the message.
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Lastmanstanding, if there's no help, fine. But many are looking at stuff and coming out all the time. Good wishes for your plan.
JRK, I could say I don't care if they look into matters or not. But that is not entirely true. Even stranger elder JW's are captives of the cult same as I was, and while I usually don't engage them in discussions, I always hope they look into information. I typically let it go for my own peace and sanity, but I hope every captive the best.
Scratchme1010, thanks.
ShirleyW, LOL. I didn't even recruit on Christmas as JW. I gave people their space to be with family.
Smiddy3, yes they asked for it. Only reason I gave it.
Junk Yard Dog, It will have to be a coffee, thanks.
Redpilltwice, that is brilliant- "We all need to keep telling them (gently) NOT to go from door-to-door if they don't know the facts and refuse to do research." I would have added that- "If you aren't aware of your own organization's activities and events that affect that organization, you shouldn't be out here."
Wing Commander said "...they are easily fooled into believing Satan and the Apostates are out to get them. The Spanish JW's are some of the most brainwashed believers out there."
I get your thoughts on how they are "all in" but many American JW's are (and others), regardless of their language, color, ethnicity. I also tended to be "all in." I consider it possibly easier to wake up from the religion from a jolt if one is "all in."
I wasn't prepared to speak, as I usually do not. I wish I had thought to mention G. Jackson on youtube.
My Name, true. Maybe they will find some water for that seed.
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What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?
by minimus inwas there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.
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The "CliffsNotes" version: I went to college and I Googled.
They warned about that evil college and that evil internet. I guess they were right about that. LOL, NO.
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Intro
by jc1985 inhello all, many years i have been lurking on this site.
gradually i’ve learned the real truth, gone from serving as a servant and at bethel to inactive for almost a year, barely ever wasting time going to meetings.
my family is large and very active and so is my wife’s so leaving altogether is difficult.. though it seems now that everything is about to change.
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Welcome to the posting side of the forum, welcome to your freedom. It will probably be hard and sad at times, but I like your attitude about it. And maybe you won't be shunned by everyone. Sometimes, we are surprised.
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JW's on my front sidewalk
by OnTheWayOut inso last weekend, the jw's ring the bell and my wife answers.
we live in a heavily spanish neighborhood but don't really speak spanish.
i thought my wife was quite clear that she is a "sister" to them, but maybe the one in charge of the group didn't get the message.
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Page 1 answers.
Finkelstein, yeah- I was still being the tiniest bit guarded so I could say I didn't say anything to be DF'ed. It was thin, they probably would exaggerate what I said, but it still left me wiggle room.Fatfreek, Jookbeard, thanks for chiming in.
steve2, Are you serious, I hope they are able to realize I gave them a couple of outs to just take their leave.
sparrowdown, I virtually never get into it. It seems pointless. I strived hard to make a point that they could look up easily.Zoos, yes. They can continue to deny. I hope they at least look up something because it's harder to deny to ones-self if they read it for themselves.
D.O.C., I wondered that myself. JW1 may bounce back to JW mode, but JW2 might just do as you say. Here's to hope.
LV101, I agree. Once I learned some things, it wouldn't go away.