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Abraham's lesson of kindness

by MikeNightHaShev in

abraham's lesson of kindness.

once abraham had traveled from ur into the land of canaan he was then referred by the people of canaan as 'the hebrew', meaning 'the man from the other side of the river'.. this is when g0d offered the land to him and his children and his children's children forever.. his tent was always open to strangers, but once an old man came to his tent in which after being fed he thanked abraham for his kindness.

abraham replied not to thank him but thank g0d for it is g0d who gives us our food.. but the old man refused, claiming his own g0d was not the g0d abraham worshipped.

dreamer

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the reply. I am afraid that there is only one way genocide on that scale can be interpreted. The only lesson lesson I can gain from that (Joshua 10) is that God will kill you if you do not believe in him. Very true, you may say, but...

...please bear in mind that these people were never offered the gospel or preached to; they simply had a different culture and religion. This, in my humble opinion, is not worthy of death, especially in the absence of any chance to change.

Dreamer

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This site is very misleading!!!

by IrishDancinJames in

this website is very misleading!

it says its for jehovahs witnesses, for brothers and sisters!!!

and this site is no such thing!

dreamer

What a cheek!!

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society are the biggest misleaders of them all: I was told for years (and believed it) that it was 'THE TRUTH'

Dream On

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Abraham's lesson of kindness

by MikeNightHaShev in

abraham's lesson of kindness.

once abraham had traveled from ur into the land of canaan he was then referred by the people of canaan as 'the hebrew', meaning 'the man from the other side of the river'.. this is when g0d offered the land to him and his children and his children's children forever.. his tent was always open to strangers, but once an old man came to his tent in which after being fed he thanked abraham for his kindness.

abraham replied not to thank him but thank g0d for it is g0d who gives us our food.. but the old man refused, claiming his own g0d was not the g0d abraham worshipped.

dreamer

Hi Mike,

Sorry to be so cynical:

The next moment he heard the voice of G0D speak to him saying that the man was 99 years old and all these years he had been patient with him while pointing out to Abraham that he could not be patient with him for even one night.

Joshua 10......I guess God's patience ran out?

Dreamer

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Organized religion- Good or bad?

by Vitameatavegamin in

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hello again friends,.

i have recently been pondering some over some thoughts on organized religion.

the jws always refer to other religions as part of babylon the great, in which we should flee from.

dreamer

Vita (for short!),

Good post. I have thought about this myself, and I can see how there are many parallels between the supposed 'whore' and the organisation. I think that given a few more hundred years, they may become just like the Catholic Church that they, oh, so despise.

Judgmentalism is a very complex and frustrating problem found in all aspects of organsisation (not just religion). I think that you are right, a 'good' christian should endevour to set an example by being as non-judgmental as possible.

Dream on

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Jah?

by Naeblis in

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have you noticed that god's name seems to be getting shorter and shorter in magazines and in witness talk??

it went from grand titles like "the heavenly merciful sassified one" to "jehovah god" and now "jah" it's jah this and jah that.

it's like the witnesses have been taken over by rastafarians.

dreamer

Naeblis: Very funny!

I think that they realise the recent debate over the pronunciation of God's name and are perhaps disassociating themselves from the 'Jehovah' rendering of YHWH. Jah (when pronounced 'Yah') is a a lot closer to the original hebrew pronunciation.

Maybe it will be 'Jah's Witnesses'....!?

Dream on

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Biblical PROOF that Jesus Christ IS GOD

by Bibleboy in

before i get started, my name is mark whitmore, 20, i live in vancouver, canada, and i am a follower of the way, a true christian, not a jw.

if you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that i know where you are coming from.

thanks.. now down to business.. strongs' hebrew and greek online:.

dreamer

Hi bibleboy,

I am afraid that you have not been very fair, understanding, or clear. You said:

Anyway, did you create God or did God create you? Then who do you think is smarter? Therefore are you supposed to understand your creator 100% ?

This would imply that not only may I not understand the nature of God (which I do not) but NEITHER MIGHT YOU. You also said:

READ SCRIPTURE BOY.... maybe I'll have the references for you after church tonight...

I have read the bible on a number of occasions. I have found that not only did Jesus' desciples not really understand his 'true' nature, but I think that he didn't. I get this from the fact that his answers are so ambiguous...Why not tell us plain and simply and save the arguements?!

Hope you can help,

Dreamer

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Biblical PROOF that Jesus Christ IS GOD

by Bibleboy in

before i get started, my name is mark whitmore, 20, i live in vancouver, canada, and i am a follower of the way, a true christian, not a jw.

if you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that i know where you are coming from.

thanks.. now down to business.. strongs' hebrew and greek online:.

dreamer

Hi bibleboy,

Interesting that you think Jesus Christ is God. I personally am not sure what to believe due to the inherent complexity and apparant contradictory/ambiguous nature of the new testament.

One thing I wonder is how Jesus could have resurrected himself...? I imagine that it could only happen if he didn't 'die' which is not possible if the prophecies were to be fulfilled.

Just a thought...

dreamer

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UK Posters: C'mon Gimme a Smiley :)

by philo in

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hello britains .

i am trying to get as many uk posters to sign in.

so post up please, whether you love the queen's corgis or think they should be nationalised!.

dreamer

Hi all,

I am from yorkshire in the UK. Interesting to see how many posters/lurkers from the UK there are here...

dream on

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Evolution a proven fact? LOL

by Rex B13 in

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some interesting quotes from evolutionists.

natural history, vol.

' new scientist, vol.

dreamer

Hi Rex,

It is interesting that all your quotes are from 1970 - 1984 (with one exception!). Do you have any quotes from scientists who are currently active in this area of research?

IMHO, in recent years, advances in molecular biology and genetics have opened up a whole new avenue of exploration. This has apparantly shown evidence for common ancestory between apes and humans. Try looking here: http://www.gate.net/~rwms/EvoEvidence.html

I am not an evolutionist by any means, but I do appreciate the work that biologists do. I believe that it is foolish to bury ones head in the past where there was a lack of evidence, and refuse to acknowledge recent advances in scientific understanding.

Who knows, they may actually 'prove' that a creation event must have occured!

Dreamer

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Christ's Manifestation and Kingdom - 1st Century?

by dreamer in

whilst reading 2nd timothy i noticed that chapter 4:1-8 seem to suggest that the early christian church believed that christ was manifest and in his kingdom:.

i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom.. .

this implies that he is still to judge, but that he is manifest and that his kiongdom is established.

dreamer

Thanks all for replying to my post. There is obviousley a lot to read here so I'll let you know what I think soon...

Dreamer