before I get started, My name is Mark Whitmore, 20, I live in Vancouver, Canada, and I am a Follower of The WAY, a True Christian, not a JW. If you reply, please post who you are, how old and what you believe so that I know where you are coming from. Thanks.
Now down to business.
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While the doctrine of Trinity is "confusing" to the carnal, or unsaved, it is simply one of God's mysteries to the Spiritual, or saved.
Question: Do we know all the mysteries of God? If you answered 'yes', then you could probably draw an accurate picture of God's face, but how could you have seen it and not have died? (Exodus 33:19-23)
Colossions 2:2-5 (KJV)
2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
The JWs' hearts are NOT comforted if 'IT' (whatever 'IT' happens to be) has not been REASONED in their minds. The JW's say that the doctrine of the Trinity is confusing because they like to REASON things; even Scripture; and their hearts won't be comforted until such time when it IS reasoned.
I, on the other hand, READ Scripture, not REASON Scripture. Amen! I like to READ and BELIEVE these following Scriptures:
(this is why I do my best not to reason):
Proverbs 3:5-6 (KJV)
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Romans 11:33-36 (KJV)
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
So, why can't we just stop trying to use OUR HUMAN intellect in comprehending God's nature and just accept the Word of the Living God. Amen!
EVEN in the New World Translation, Titus 1:3-4 says that both God ('G') and Jesus Christ are the Saviour ('S').
How can this be, if, according to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, God is not Trinity? Could it be that the Watchtower IS infact a false prophet organization?
"Mark," you say, "Jehovah God is the Saviour but He is the Saviour through Jesus Christ who is NOT God."
I beg to differ on these grounds:
Isaiah 45:15, 21-22 (KJV)
15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Acts 4:10-12 (KJV)
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
So, there is ONLY ONE SAVIOUR, yet Titus 1:3; 1:4 remain.
What will the Watchtower do? Chuck their current NWT and come out with a REVISED NWT... or will they REPRINT the NWT and expegate the book of Titus?
If this isn't enough for you, then how about this:
Isaiah 44:8 (KJV)
8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
That LAST bit... "there is no God; I know not any." the word "God" in Most other english translations the word is "Rock"
I particularily like the phrasing in the Contemporary English Version for this verse:
Isaiah 44:8 (CEV)
8 Don't tremble with fear! Didn't I tell you long ago? Didn't you hear me? I alone am God -- no one else is a mighty rock.
In this case we go to the Hebrew... in Strongs' Hebrew Concordance it is Hebrew # 06697 tsuwr {tsoor} or tsur {tsoor}.
It now makes sense. God is not only comparing Himself with the strength of a Rock, but he's declaring himself that Rock. But wait a second, if God the Father (Jehovah God) is the Rock, (not knowing ANY other) then how can Jesus Christ be the Rock?
1 Corinthians 10:1-4 (KJV)
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
There you have it. Jesus IS God Almighty. Anyone differ?
That's 2 parts of the 3 that form the Godhead of the Trinity.
Ephesians 4:30 (KJV) (similar in the NWT)
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Let's look at the Proper Context!
Ephesians 4:30 (CEV)
Don't make God's Spirit sad. The Spirit makes you sure that someday you will be free from your sins.
Strongs' Greek # 3076 lupeo {loo-peh'-o} . So, when it says, "don't grieve the Spirit of God", it's NOT saying, don't cry over the Holy Spirit... the verse wouldn't really make a whole lot of sense. It is saying that you shouldn't make actions or words that would upset God.
if you haven't looked into the Greek yet, let me spread it on the table for you: from 3077; TDNT - 4:313,540; v
AV - be sorrowful 6, grieve 6, make sorry 6, be sorry 3, sorrow 3,
cause grief 1, be in heaviness 1; 26
1) to make sorrowful
2) to affect with sadness, cause grief, to throw into sorrow
3) to grieve, offend
4) to make one uneasy, cause him a scruple
The Holy Spirit is a person, thus completing the Godhead of the Trinity. ONE GOD, THREE CO-ETERNAL, CO-EQUAL PERSONS, NAMELY FATHER, SON, HOLY GHOST, ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE... YET STILL ONE GOD... ONE GOD ONE FAITH ONE BAPTISTM!!! SOMEBODY SAY AMEN!!! HALLELUJAWEH!!!
I got LOTS more Scripture.
IF you reply, don't reason! Only read!
-In Jesus' Precious name.
-Mark Whitmore