Apostafest? What's that???
Juniper
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Why would this even cross my mind?!?!?!?!
by Juniper inwell, after 10 years of being together, hubby has decided that he's found his 'soul mate' (the second time this year, neither of which was me) and is moving out.. i'm thirty years old and no kids, thanks to the fact that i spent 12 years in full time service telling everyone it's better to wait until the 'new system' for raising a family.
that's all beside the point - and perhaps better suited for my counselor.
:) anyway, the thought that keeps going through my mind is "this never would have happened if i didn't leave" and "how am i going to find someone to spend my life with at this age and who will understand me the way an ex-jw can"???
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I Want To Collect Kingdom Melodies!
by Nosferatu incould someone please tell me how many different versions of the kingdom melodies are out there?
i'm only aware of the piano recordings and the orchestra crap.
what other arrangements (box sets) has the wts released?.
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Juniper
I used to have some tape of crazy sounding German children or whatevers singing kingdom melodies in german or something... :) Vague enough for ya? If I find it, I'll look this thread up and send it to ya. It would make one hell of a mix!
On a side note, anyone out there realize while driving, shopping, washing your hair.... anyway, you ever realize you're humming a kingdom melody? How odd!.....
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Why would this even cross my mind?!?!?!?!
by Juniper inwell, after 10 years of being together, hubby has decided that he's found his 'soul mate' (the second time this year, neither of which was me) and is moving out.. i'm thirty years old and no kids, thanks to the fact that i spent 12 years in full time service telling everyone it's better to wait until the 'new system' for raising a family.
that's all beside the point - and perhaps better suited for my counselor.
:) anyway, the thought that keeps going through my mind is "this never would have happened if i didn't leave" and "how am i going to find someone to spend my life with at this age and who will understand me the way an ex-jw can"???
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Juniper
Well, after 10 years of being together, hubby has decided that he's found his 'soul mate' (the second time this year, neither of which was me) and is moving out.
I'm thirty years old and no kids, thanks to the fact that I spent 12 years in full time service telling everyone it's better to wait until the 'new system' for raising a family. What a dope~!
That's all beside the point - and perhaps better suited for my counselor. :) Anyway, the thought that keeps going through my mind is "this never would have happened if I didn't leave" and "how am I going to find someone to spend my life with at this age and who will understand me the way an ex-jw can"??? I was a liar every day of my life as a jw - I never really 'bought into it'.....and now here I am with my subconscious telling me to go back for support and to find a 'good guy'.
What the hell is wrong with my brain?????? If anyone has any words of wisdom, advice, or plain comiseration, I'd sooo appreciate it!
I'm just plain heartbroken and feel like I have no where to go. :(....
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Curiosity dictates a question like this...
by Juniper inhave any of you out there ever taken the "opposite route" and studied paganism or wicca?.
i know of some that practice that.
but i've been thinking about what a strange irony that would be, right?
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Juniper
Thanks for the info, all! :)
I have some friends that are Wiccans, and to be honest, it definitely intrigues me. Mostly because of the crede about bringing no harm to others. Apparently, the base "rule" of wicca, although I may not have that right. I don't know much.
I thought this would make an interesting question to post, as witnesses definitely villainize such things. OK, they villianize everyone, but ESPECIALLY those with pagan beleifs.
I'm thinking about giving it an honest try - as I definitely find the path appealing. What better than to follow a beleif that will teach you to truly do good for all? :)
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Curiosity dictates a question like this...
by Juniper inhave any of you out there ever taken the "opposite route" and studied paganism or wicca?.
i know of some that practice that.
but i've been thinking about what a strange irony that would be, right?
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Juniper
Have any of you out there ever taken the "opposite route" and studied paganism or Wicca?
I know of some that practice that. I don't myself. But I've been thinking about what a strange irony that would be, right? From JW to Wiccan!
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Mass? Maine?
by Juniper inanyone out there from massachusetts or maine?
i'm looking for old friends that may have left!
i'm not too keen on saying where i'm from yet (family doesn't realize i'm officially "not coming back").
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Juniper
Anyone out there from Massachusetts or Maine? I'm looking for old friends that may have left! :)
I'm not too keen on saying where I'm from yet (family doesn't realize I'm officially "not coming back"). Feel free to reply to my post or send me an email!
Hope to hear from you!
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Fading: A Little Craziness Helps
by metatron inas you may know, i am a zealous advocate of using depression as a means of fading out of the organization.. let me add that a hint of craziness or mental illness can work wonders, too.
instead of shunning you, your witness.
relatives and "friends" may make quite an allowance for you, if you just keep your mouth shut about deep apostasy.. they may just feel sorry for you and leave you alone- at least, that's largely my experience.. remember that movie that said "love means never having to say you're sorry"?
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Juniper
Here! Here! I agree!
My folks have been more than patient with me as I use the "depression and anxiety" card. It's worked wonders. They still speak to me, they still give me lots of affection. Of course, they keep saying, "sweetie, it has been a couple of years, how about just one meeting?". To which I say, "my nerves just can't handle it, mom....". :)
But you know what? It's actually the truth! My nerves can't take another moment of that craziness that takes place in there. And depression? Well, I'd definitely need some depression medicine a heck of a lot stronger than what I take now if I ever went back.
Silly that they afford for mental stuff. But heck, if it means I can keep my family....that's a-ok with me!
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Was Being A Witness, All THAT Bad???
by minimus ini mean, you could've been made to be an islamic fundamentalist or something, right?
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Juniper
Tolerance is key. My personal beleif "now" requires me to see any one individual's religion or beleif as just that - what works for them as an individual. There are many who just LOVE being witnesses, love the close community, and love having a set of restrictions that makes them feel elevated. That's ok.
We all choose our beleifs based on what works for us.
What doesn't work is staying there simply because of guilt, not wanting to be shunned, or just perpetuating a "family tradition".
I've decided it was ok for me to leave, and it's ok for them to stay. I may not like the way people like myself are treated - but then again, there are lots of things in this world that I don't like and cannot change. So I just let it fall.
Live, be happy - and stay out of eachother's business. :)
And I couldn't care less how they view it!
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Higher Education
by uwishufish inthis may have already been done if so sorry.. how many have gone on to earn college degrees after leaving the borg?
in what feild?.
how many are full time students now earning a degree?.
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Juniper
I'm making plans to start pre-pharmacy studies in January!!! I'm thrilled...
Amazing how many opportunities are open to you when you get to live in the same world as everyone else!!!
Are you making school plans? No matter what your age is - it's never too late!
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October Announcement Tid Bit
by Juniper inok, i dont know what it is either.
but i can tell you that it exists!
i know an ms who was talking to a bro from bethel who said that there was big stuff coming and big changes.
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Juniper
Ok, I dont know what it is either. But I can tell you that it exists!
I know an MS who was talking to a bro from bethel who said that there was big stuff coming and big changes. The MS told me that he knew what the secret was, but that everyone who knows has been told that they could be df'd for talking about it beforehand.
Of course, this could all be hoop-la, I know. But the sources it came from have always been reliable in the past.
Thought some of you might be interested in that, since we're all wondering if it even exists!!
ps - This is my first post!!! Been out for a year and a half, and I'm just now finding my own self. :) I was a need greater for a long, long time - but now I'm really happy!!!!!