Great thread Ian.
It will soon be here now, what with December starting tomorrow.
do you find it difficult to know what to get for your beloved for christmas?
(assuming you celebrate it!)..
my wife says to me "don't get me anything, i'd rather we saved the money to get away next year.".
Great thread Ian.
It will soon be here now, what with December starting tomorrow.
not that i want to or anything, but this therapist guy seems to think that it would be really helpful to my wife.
he says to pull out the good and ignore what you dont like, and that supporting my wife a bit in this way could be good for us as a couple.
it could also let us have at least some shot at keeping the old social life alive.
Carla
I agree JWs will not compromise, therefore you need to play their game if you want to win one of them over. It depends on what you want as an outcome. I wanted my wife to be with me. I looked at it as guerrilla warfare.
not that i want to or anything, but this therapist guy seems to think that it would be really helpful to my wife.
he says to pull out the good and ignore what you dont like, and that supporting my wife a bit in this way could be good for us as a couple.
it could also let us have at least some shot at keeping the old social life alive.
From a personal point of view, I have to agree with Watson if you want to help your wife.
I would go to meetings with my wife. She knew my thoughts about the "truth".
I suppose she secretly hoped I would change.
I would do my best to avoid conflict. This set the situation up whereby she would be comfortable in expressing issues she had, knowing I wouldn't pounce on them and attack the religion. But these issues could be built upon.
Anyway for me it worked and my wife fully came out last year, it took a few years for this to happen. Sometimes I felt it would never happen but I had to keep believing. But it wasn't easy.
I wish you luck.
a 14 year old can refuse a blood transfusion.
this is against the wishes of his parents.. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_jehovahs_witness_transfusion.html.
judge: 14-year-old jehovah's witness can refuse blood transfusionthe associated press.
Sad to hear he has now died.
The kid sure didn't know what he was doing. The only consolation, for him, is he would have died believing he was doing the right thing. I don't know but the cancer may have been quite aggressive considering he died so soon after the court order.
I feel for his friends and family.
a 14 year old can refuse a blood transfusion.
this is against the wishes of his parents.. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_jehovahs_witness_transfusion.html.
judge: 14-year-old jehovah's witness can refuse blood transfusionthe associated press.
A 14 year old can refuse a blood transfusion. This is against the wishes of his parents.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_jehovahs_witness_transfusion.html
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
MOUNT VERNON, Wash. -- A 14-year-old Jehovah's Witness sick with leukemia has the right to refuse a blood transfusion, even though doing so might kill him, a judge ruled Wednesday.
Skagit County Superior Court Judge John Meyer denied a motion by the state to force Dennis Lindberg, of Mount Vernon, to have a blood transfusion. The judge said the eighth-grader knows "he's basically giving himself a death sentence."
Doctors diagnosed the boy with leukemia on Nov. 6 and began treating him with chemotherapy at Children's Hospital in Seattle, but stopped a week ago because his blood count was too low, the Skagit Valley Herald reported. The boy refused the transfusion on religious grounds.
However, his birth parents, who do not have custody and flew from Idaho to be at the hearing, believe their son should have the transfusion and suggested he has been unduly influenced by his legal guardian, his aunt, who is also a Jehovah's Witness.
Several friends of Lindberg and of his parents attended Wednesday's hearing, and some ran out crying when the judge announced his decision.
hi folks,.
claire, the children and i will be celebrating our 4th christmas this year after exiting the cult.
we have decided to put our tree up on 1st december.
Hi Ian
We will putting ours up this weekend as well, this will be our 2nd Chrismas.
I am not sure what other lights my wife has bought to adorn our house with but I reckon it will be more than last year. It will be all very tasteful though, that I do know.
She was brought up a JW and loves Christmas, so glad our little one doesn't have to miss out.
Also, he has a part in the nursery Nativity, I am going to be so proud and I reckon we will shed a tear or too.
the "where's your jacket brother" thread reminded me of an incident.. i was conducting 4 bible studies two on a monday evening, one wednesday evening and one on a sunday morning.
i was working full time.. so the only first call i did was on an saturday morning for an hour (the cats ministry.
on a "shepherding call" (don't you just hate that) the elder told me i should be going out with the group on a sunday morning and do rvs on a saturday.
Hi Carla
You are right about the meetings. I had a wife but no kids then.
My wife was a JW (she's out aswell now), so it is a bit different than your situation. She was sort of happy that I was so "spiritual" but was concerned for my welfare.
I agree that it didn't leave much time to spend with her. Funnily enough we always used to say, even when we were quite zealous, that we would find it hard to bring up kids as "good" JWs.
I hope your husband comes to his senses, once I found out the truth, I waited patiently for a few years for my wife. She finally came round last year. Obviously by then I was just going through the motions.
the "where's your jacket brother" thread reminded me of an incident.. i was conducting 4 bible studies two on a monday evening, one wednesday evening and one on a sunday morning.
i was working full time.. so the only first call i did was on an saturday morning for an hour (the cats ministry.
on a "shepherding call" (don't you just hate that) the elder told me i should be going out with the group on a sunday morning and do rvs on a saturday.
How about I DONT AT ALL!
LOL
Pioneer Spirit
Your husband should have done what my BIL did when he wanted to be "made up". He used to "borrow" hours from the proceeding month! The elders wondered why his report always showed exactly 10 hours month in and month out. I don't think he ever paid back his debt. His IOU to Jehovah must be huge by now
Bonnie Clyde
Your son was shrewd, enough hours to keep the elders away but not enough to be spiritual. But I would think 8/9 hours a month would be very good nowadays.
how long mail takes to india.
i sent mail weeks ago... never arrived there ...any idea???
?from canada
Well I told you all I was daft!!!!Yes I sent to you MRS Smith right address I just checked again
Look at 80!!! I forget where the bathroom is sometimes how do you expect me to know the differance between India & Africa
LOL!
i'm selling christmas trees this year.....why not what else would anyone expect from a apostate in portland oregon....that will give some of my xjw friends something to talk about..... anyway if you want a christmas tree at cost, come see me.
any tree on the lot half price.
one of my best friends grows and sells trees.
Good luck!
We bought our first one last year (artificial though).
edited To add : Merry Xmas to you