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  Matt.27: 51-54 Do you remember WT saying these were bodies tossed about?

  by whyizit in

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  i swear that my jw friend told me that matt.

  27:51-54 wasn't really speaking of a resurrection, but that the bodies were tossed out of the graves by the quake and only "appeared" to be alive, ....etc.....( they were tumbling around and looked like they were walking, but they were really just dead bodies that fell out of their graves and were moving around because of the quake.).

  have any of you heard this before, and could you give me a clearer explanation of how this was explained?

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  I swear that my JW friend told me that Matt. 27:51-54 wasn't really speaking of a resurrection, but that the bodies were tossed out of the graves by the quake and only "appeared" to be alive, ....etc.....( They were tumbling around and looked like they were walking, but they were really just dead bodies that fell out of their graves and were moving around because of the quake.)

  Yes, I remember this well. This is one of the subjects on which the WTS quotes spiritist Johannes Greber for support. If no one gets to it before I get home tonight, I'll post the quote from the WT pubs.
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  ships of kittim

  by buffalosrfree in

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  my daughter and wife are going to book study and the subject of the ships of kittim came up, i don't believe anything the wtbts says about who or what they were does anyone else have any info?

  your help will be much appreciated.

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  What fantastic interpretation did the Society conjure up for this text?

  I remember reading this when the "Daniel's Prophecy" book first came out. All I could do is shake my head. This is on page 264.

  13 In Daniel’s time Kittim was Cyprus. Early in the first world war, Cyprus was annexed by Britain. Moreover, according to The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible, the name Kittim "is extended to include the W[est] in general, but esp[ecially] the seafaring W[est]." The New International Version renders the expression "ships of Kittim" as "ships of the western coastlands." During the first world war, the ships of Kittim proved to be mainly the ships of Britain, lying off the western coast of Europe.

  "Proved to be" ??? You gotta be kidding!
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  About Tattoos...

  by Mastodon in

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  somebody was asking me about tattoos and what the biblical rules about them are.

  i also remember that a magazine (an awake!?

  ) mentioned that getting a tattoo is a matter of conscience.

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  Significantly, the Mosaic Law forbade God’s people to tattoo themselves. Said Leviticus 19:28: “You must not make cuts in your flesh for a deceased soul, and you must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves. I am Jehovah.”

  Funny how they quote than one and skip over the previous verse: (Leviticus 19:27) "‘YOU must not cut YOUR sidelocks short around, and you must not destroy the extremity of your beard."
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  Which Bible do you use?

  by snobirobi in

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  hello everyone, i've been lurking for quite a while now and am enjoying my time on this forum.

  i wasn't born or raised a jw, but married into it....sorta.

  my husband was raised a jw, never baptized, and became inactive once married.

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  For reading, ESV or NIV. For study NASB
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  Calling all BETHELITES

  by YoursChelbie in

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  if you have previously served at bethel, can you post word for word the "vow of poverty" that you are asked to take?

  is this a written document that you keep?

  has the wording of it changed a lot or always the same?

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  What-a-Coincidence, thank you for posting that. I knew about the poverty part of the vow, but I notice that the word obedience comes even before poverty here. Amazing, but not surprising.
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  Just curious, How many Awakes do you read to get a college level education?

  by PaNiCAtTaCk in

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  maybe pmj or another active witnesses can explain?

  or do they still teach this?

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  <barf bag alert!>

  ***

  g94 11/8 p. 32 "What a Plethora of Knowledge!" ***

  "What

  a Plethora of Knowledge!"

  "PLETHORA," a word of ancient Latin and Greek origin, means "a superabundance, an excess." A reader of the Watchtower and Awake! magazines in Sierra Leone, West Africa, wrote the above words regarding the yearly bound volumes of these magazines that are produced by the Watchtower Society. He continued: "What wonderful gems of priceless wisdom! There is hardly a subject that interests me that I do not find discussed somewhere in the pages of one of these volumes. Many times people honestly mistake me for a college graduate, and when I confess that I have never darkened the doors of a college, they are surprised. But I say: ‘No, I am only an avid reader of the Watchtower and Awake! journals.’"
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  Just curious, How many Awakes do you read to get a college level education?

  by PaNiCAtTaCk in

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  maybe pmj or another active witnesses can explain?

  or do they still teach this?

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  *** w83 6/15 p. 31 An Excellent Education ***

  Would you like to grow in knowledge, obtaining an education of even much greater value than can be received in any college? You can do so by reading regularly this magazine and its companion, Awake! Not only will these journals help you to keep up with world events but they will also help you to see how these events fulfill the Bible prophecies regarding the time of the end of this entire system of things. Yes, regularly reading these publications not only will improve your knowledge of secular matters but will also provide you with knowledge that will put you in line to live forever in God’s righteous new system.—John 17:3; 2 Peter 3:13.
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  Osama: How You Like Me Now?

  by prophecor in

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  2. scandals

  osama bin laden says he's willing to call a truce.

  bush administration says, " in a pigs eye, kiss @$$ !!!

  is he manipulating the situation to his advantage, or does america have him on the run?

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  Here is an interesting quot It was 1987 There was Ollie North in front of congress and God getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

  "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"
  
  "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

  
  Sorry, but this is an urban legend - see http://www.snopes.com/rumors/north.asp
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  FOLLOW THE MONEY AND COVER THE TRACKS

  by belbab in

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  during the several years of my following the posts on this board, there have been quite a few posts that expressed wonder and curiosity, about how the leaders of the watchtower organization benefit personally from the financial affairs of this organization.

  as i read the jwd posts yesterday morning, there were a couple i perused quickly, one was lees, where i learned something new, that the deeds of beth sarim were in .

  big wow!

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  Belbab, thank you for posting the letter from Gordon Pollock. The Mr. and Mrs. Carl R. Howell to whom the letter is addressed are the parents of Joan Cetnar. In a phone conversation with Joan a few months ago she confirmed that the letter is authentic.
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  It Is Friday The 13th..What Kind Of Day Did You All Have?

  by Legolas in

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  it is orlando bloom's birthday btw.....happy birthday orlie

  but my darn mouse broke today

  and now i am just starting to have a few drinks of rum...cheers all!

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  My wife and I had a great day. It was 50 degrees here - abnormally warm for this time of year here in Maine. We got out the motorcycles and took a nice ride.