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  In Memorandum

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was the 14th of april last year that i had to sit my mother down and tell her i was an apostate.. i was closer to her than anyone else.

  my father and mother are still married, but he let her raise me as a witness, and that meant it was me and mom.. me and mom in field service for 100 hours in july because she had to make her time as a regular pioneer.. me and mom fighting over what to bring for lunch to the district convention.. me and mom up late at night, when she would berate me, and then unload all her problems on to me.. me and mom and our 4 hour family studies, where we discuss 2 paragraphs of a random book, and then she would browbeat me until early in the morning.. somehow, through all that, i pretended to be a witness for years, just to appease her.

  looking back, i don't know if i loved her, or if i was just afraid of her.

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  VanillaMocha73

  I just have to say that for a person to stay in the WT and be gung ho like your mom, my ex husband, and like my mom used to be, they have to be abusive. They are being abused. A normal person does not stay in this situation. My mom abused me, although I don't think she meant to. Yes, she hit me, spanked me, berated me, and I went through those hours of studies, the 100+ hours in FS, etc. My ex beat me and spent our entire life together berating and abusing me. I think this organization and abuse/abusers go together. Amazingly, after they df'd me, my mom started on her way out. She is not quite there, but she is an entirely different person. There is hope. *hugs.
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  Revelation Book Conductors

  by Alligator Wisdom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  any of you elders or ministerial servants conducting the revelation (it's grand climax at hand!

  ) book at the weekly book studies?.

  if so, are you maneuvering thru with ease?.

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  VanillaMocha73

  I can't even imagine trying to sit through a study, let alone conduct. Wouldn't it be a riot to bring in something like the Left Behind series to the study?
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  Who did you hang around with amongst the JW's in your congregation?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i used to hang around with the marginal witnesses, the ones considered weak.

  those that missed meeetings occasionally, like me.. i used to go out in the service mostly with them and give them a lift to and from the hall.. it's as if i fit in better with more humble witnesses.. .

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  VanillaMocha73

  I am noticing here a lot of Ex-JWs who were pioneers. Wonder what the percentage is?
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  Who did you hang around with amongst the JW's in your congregation?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i used to hang around with the marginal witnesses, the ones considered weak.

  those that missed meeetings occasionally, like me.. i used to go out in the service mostly with them and give them a lift to and from the hall.. it's as if i fit in better with more humble witnesses.. .

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  VanillaMocha73

  Well, I hung out with most everybody. As a reg pio, of course the pioneers / elders. I didn't miss meetings, but I hung out with the misfits to some degree as well. Guess you could say I had a lot of friends. I wouldn't have left on my own - glad God gave me the shove I needed to get out.
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  Do JWs know who the king of the north is?

  by cultswatter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think they used to believe that germany was the kng of the north.

  what is their official take on that.

  btw does the rev grand climax book talk about that ?.

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  VanillaMocha73

  It is a polar bear.... *** g93 12/8 p. 23 Impressive Giants of Canada’s North *** KING of the North” and “Lords of the Arctic” are striking titles shared by some 30,000 polar bears
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  How many still live with consequenses made as a teen that still affect you?

  by megsmomma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with so many of us having gotten baptised at a young age and now dealing with the results of it.... it made me wonder how many decisions made at a young age still could and do affect your life.. example: when i was 14 i thought it was a good idea to marry this weird brother that was our land lord.

  (thank goodness i was too young to do so) also, i thought it was a good idea to have pet monkeys....and a good idea to have my own apartment with several other young jw sisters...even thinking it would be a good idea to have babies.... i was too young to do any of those things...so i have no consequences from having those ideas....yet, getting dunked at that age was perfectly acceptable....and now i still pay the price.. are there any things you can think of that you would have done at a young age that could have made you pay for years to come?.

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  VanillaMocha73

  Oh - and married a "wonderful ministerial servant" at age 18 so we could pioneer and be missionaries. Consequences lived with - 13 years of emotional, mental and physical abuse. Scars. One beautiful little boy.
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  How many still live with consequenses made as a teen that still affect you?

  by megsmomma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with so many of us having gotten baptised at a young age and now dealing with the results of it.... it made me wonder how many decisions made at a young age still could and do affect your life.. example: when i was 14 i thought it was a good idea to marry this weird brother that was our land lord.

  (thank goodness i was too young to do so) also, i thought it was a good idea to have pet monkeys....and a good idea to have my own apartment with several other young jw sisters...even thinking it would be a good idea to have babies.... i was too young to do any of those things...so i have no consequences from having those ideas....yet, getting dunked at that age was perfectly acceptable....and now i still pay the price.. are there any things you can think of that you would have done at a young age that could have made you pay for years to come?.

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  VanillaMocha73

  a) Parents made decision to skip some needed back surgery to correct severe scoliosis, because Armageddon would be here before it ever affected me.
  b) Parents made decision to keep me out of college because Armageddon would be here before I ever needed to hold down a job.
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  any advice?

  by J-ex-W in

  1. social
  2. family

  my oldest son informed me tonight that he will not have a relationship until/ unless i do two things: 1) start going back to meetings (of course), and 2) show, seem, or whatever, that i'm sorry for all the pain that i caused him/ the family by divorcing their dad.

  [i told him there are a lot of decisions i made that caused them pain which i do regret, but that i cannot regret leaving their dad.

  this for him, is evidence of my wrongness in his and in wt eyes.. he said outright that "there can be no reason, short of dad being a serial killer" that could justify my divorcing him, and that the "only thing [that i] could tell him that would seem to justify it could only be a pack of lies.

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  VanillaMocha73

  No - But sure would like to see that one. Anyone have a pdf of it?
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  Prince and Lindsay Lohan Partying?

  by wozadummy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  just finished reading an article in the morning newspaper about lindsay lohan cheking herself into the wonderland centre for drug and alchohol rehab.. it is sad to see such a beautiful young person getting to need such services with so much of her life ahead.. but the part of the report that made me sit up and think was this, i quote........ "ms lohan was in hospital on january 3 for appendicitis but was seen out partying a couple of hours after she was discharged.. since, she has been seen out almost every night and on monday she attended prince's post golden-globes bash at the beverley wilshire hotel.

  a fellow party goer said she obviously was the worse for wear.".

  well i'm spewing over this and here are my questions then....... if prince is a jw what the hell is he doing organising a large function without the elders approval?.

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  VanillaMocha73

  Very simple answer - $$$$$$$.
  As for JWs having any problem with children drinking, they defend my ex who advocates his children drinking from a very early age. And how many of them do you know that are alcoholics? I had to say that 90% of my KH (through several halls) were alcoholics. I almost think you have to be to survive.
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  Going door to door to recruit members doesn't work

  by JH in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you look at all the hours they do going door to door world wide and then you look at how many hours preaching it takes to bring just 1 person to their organization, it's not efficient.. my mom goes to a baptist church now, and i was surprised to know that 500 go to that meeting on sundays and they don't go door to door to go get these people.. there might be 80 witnesses at my hall and going door to door doesn't make much of a difference.

  maybe it's even counter productive since people don't like being pested at home..

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  VanillaMocha73

  Well, the next to last meeting I ever went to, they were saying that they were so broke they could not even make their KH payment. So I guess the donations aren't so good. My ex who was in charge of the $$ never donated anything. How many of you ever put money in the box? When I had a paycheck, I would faithfully put in my 10% and the elders actually commented on it like I had two heads or something. Course, not having an education, my 10% was mighty small....