"And look at Falun Gong indeed! Have they been wiped out yet? NO! "
I think it is safe to assume they are being kept at a controlled level, being persecuted and kept at a controlled level would not seem to agree with the implication of the question 'is China the next big field for JWs?'. It's maybe a small field, a very small field.
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Here's why I refer to Falun Gong:
Falun Gong lays emphasis on its interpretation of good moral nature. Practitioners are required to emphasize virtue (de), be a good person in all environments, and always think of others before doing things.
Doesn't sound very threatening does it?
In July 1999, the Chinese government declared the practice of Falun Gong illegal. Several weeks earlier, for 12 hours on April 25, about 10,000 people gathered at the Central Appeal Office at Foyou street,[17] outside Zhongnanhai, the headquarters of Chinese government and lined up along a 2 km stretch. The practitioners dispersed peacefully after they received word that Premier of the People's Republic of China Zhu Rongji had agreed to their requests. Nevertheless, it was widely reported by the Chinese media that Falun Gong practitioners organizing a protest in the heart of the Communist Party of China alarmed many senior leaders, particularly Jiang Zemin.[17]
There has been international response to the suppression. According to the Falun Gong-run Falun Dafa Clearwisdom.net, there are, as of June 3, 2006, 2,898 reported cases of Falun Gong practitioners dying in police and government custody in mainland China[18], giving rise to allegations of torture and police brutality.[19][20] The report also alleges that hundreds of thousands of Falun Gong practitioners have been detained, with more than 100,000 sentenced to forced-labor camps. Moreover, there are more than 30,000 documented cases of persecution.
I'm sure the Chinese government would view the Christian Congregation of JWs as even more threatening than the Falun Gong. They could only survive if they kept very very quiet, which would mean no property ownership for the Watchtower.
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I say no too, China's government will be too threatened by the JWs, look how they cracked down on the Falun Gong.
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Gregg Stafford returning to the Big O
by Amazing ingreg stafford posted on july 1, 2006 that he is returning to the organization.
you can read his article at: http://www.elihubooks.com/greg-stafford/another.htm.
his rationale and logic are most interesting.
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When did this guy ever stop being a Jehovah's Witness? In the linked article he calls the WTS 'the organization bearing Gods name', he writes books like 'Jehovahs Witnesses Defended'. Sounds like a J-dub to me, whether or not he attends the meetings.
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Gregg Stafford returning to the Big O
by Amazing ingreg stafford posted on july 1, 2006 that he is returning to the organization.
you can read his article at: http://www.elihubooks.com/greg-stafford/another.htm.
his rationale and logic are most interesting.
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Let's take bets on how long before he leaves again.
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I think any religion can change some one's life to a positive way.
by free2beme ini remember as a witness, how we always were told account of people getting their life changed in a wonderful way, when they became witnesses.
we always thought, "that is what happens when jehovah comes into your life.
" yet if you think about it, every religion i have ever encountered, has similar account of lives being changed by religion.
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1. I decide my own purpose.
2. An honest and realistic view of the world leaves me with no necessity for 'hope'.
3. I organize myself. My own experience and the experience of others allows us to determine shared guidelines for our co-existence.
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For you guys in the UK ... Tax Defaulting
by stevenyc in.
http://www.comisiwnelusennau.gov.uk/registeredcharities/showcharity.asp?chyno=1067063
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From the wording of that paragraph, those rules may only apply from 2003 onwards (e.g. an update in the law). There may be other, or even no, penalties that apply before that time. Or do we know otherwise?
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1914 BREATHTAKING BLASPHEME
by DannyHaszard inarticulator manipulator
the "truth" is worth lying for
breathtaking blaspheme!
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While Jehovah's Witnesses do not try to pin a date on Jesus' return, the end times prophesies in the Bible are being fulfilled, said Ruben Ramirez, one of the conference organizers.
Danny thanks for time you take to create these posts!
When I read the above statement, I assume they mean 'we dont try to pin a date on armageddon', rather than referring to 1914... am I wrong?
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Does WTS claim that Jesus 2nd presence was in 1874 or 1914? (non-JW asks)
by whyizit ini'm not a jw, nor have i ever been, so some of the things that my jw friends tell me just don't seem to make sense.
to avoid conflict in our friendship, sometimes i just let things slide, rather than argue.
i am, however, a bible-believing, non-denominational christian who reads and studies the bible frequently, and loves yahweh.. my jw friend just slipped yet another wt magazine in my door and it says that: "jesus christ began to rule as king of god's kingdom in 1914.
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How old is the Prophecy book?
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For you guys in the UK ... Tax Defaulting
by stevenyc in.
http://www.comisiwnelusennau.gov.uk/registeredcharities/showcharity.asp?chyno=1067063
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Now I see, they haven't handed in accounts for 01/02.
As far as I can figure this has nothing to do with paying tax, which is paid to Revenue and Customs. They have merely failed to submit their accounts to the Charity Commission.