Vidiot -
I take that as a complement coming from you. I like your posts.
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The future of the meetings?
by Kool Jo ini bumped into this website....really interesting:.
you however need a pw to access....if this was more popular, i could see khall attendance dropping, as we know, most people simple go just to appease others: .
http://www.livekingdomhall.com/.
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The future of the meetings?
by Kool Jo ini bumped into this website....really interesting:.
you however need a pw to access....if this was more popular, i could see khall attendance dropping, as we know, most people simple go just to appease others: .
http://www.livekingdomhall.com/.
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Social evolution, laregely driven through technology, will be the WT's undoing, eventually. Even seemingly "good" things from the organization's or JW's perspectve, (such as making it "easier" to attend meetings), really work against the WT's intentions in the long run. The WT is an authoritarian organization with a very hierarchical structure, that completely depends on controlling its subjects. These types of things work to slowly break that structure down.
This is precisely why they are desparate lately.
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Drinking and JWN
by BU2B ini am drinking a japanese beer called kirin ichiban right now exploring the wonderful threads of the past here on jwn.
i love this forum so much.. how many here enjoy an adult beverage while browsing jwn?
i love all of you guys :).
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It is 10:30 on Sauturday night, wifey fell asleep watching tv...Listening to ELO's Eldorado and drinking a cabernet while reading. Be even better with some vegatation!
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No need to fake that happiness!
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Really bizarre part on the meeting last night
by stillin inon the service meeting there was a part covering a couple of pages from the tms guidebook chapter on warmth and feeling.
rather than coaching the r&f on how to make a school talk sound warm, it focused on the people that jws meet in their ministry.
basically, the part could have been labelled "how to fake warmth and feeling.
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The meeting that always caused the most cognitive dissonance for me was the Service Meeting. Nothing more than sales instruction.
Integ - I agree. Fake to the core. But as jgnat has mentioned, they actually start to rationalize faking their belief, so they don't even know they are faking it, eventually. I think this is the biggest reason why as jws get older, they either become more hardcore, or they leave either physically, or mentally through apathy.
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How do JWs Not see how barbaric YHWH is? Its what started my awakening.
by BU2B inif one reads genesis from the first chapter through the end with an open mind, it is clear that not only is it not true, but that god is potrayed as a cruel, petty, childish micromanaging tyrant.
if one continues reading the ot this is just further solidified.
how do jws not see the obvious?
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This is precisely the reason why the Borg is as warped as it is. Their fictional leader is biggest narcissist of all. This pretty much allows them to excuse any behavior.
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Why Do Some People Still Disagree With Special Relativity?
by DT ini have to admit that i feel poorly equipped to address this subject.
i'm more interested in the feedback of others than in trying to persuade others of my opinions.
i should also point out that although this topic is specifically about special relativity, much of what is said could also apply to general relativity.. special relativity has had a profound effect on both science and modern culture.
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done4good
From what I can tell, the physics community does not "disagree" with special, (or general), relativity. Any controvesy within the mainstream community deals more the "fundamental" nature of relativity, (or even quantum mechanics), for that manner. This is what leads to things like string theory. String theory, however, has no falsifiable basis, and therefore does not really costitute a theory in scientific terms, and is likely nullified anyway with the discovery of the Higgs boson. Other ideas have been postulated, (and are all the time), but the idea at least since Heisenburg, has been the standard model of quantum mechanics, alongside general relativity when dealing with very large spacetime components. The infinities that result of combining the two in formulae are simply cancelled out to get them to agree. It is the fact this needs to be done that suggests something more fundamental to our universe, (or multiverse), is responsible for the behaviors we can domonstrate both mathmatically and through experimentation for both relativity and the standard model of QM.
In summary, physicists generally DO agree there IS something more fundamental than either.
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Today I Da'd -Twenty-five years ago. Regrets -some.
by Xanthippe inyes twenty-five years ago today we sent in our da letter.
some regrets, not about leaving the cult obviously, but sometimes when i read about people slowly fading and keeping in touch with family and friends i wonder if we should have done that.
of course it was before the internet in 1989 so we didn't know about people fading.. one day we were driving along and we had been talking about moving congregations because we knew something was wrong but of course we thought it was local.
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Xanthippe -
It will be 7 years, (since I wrote my DA letter), for me in June. 8+ totally out of the org in any case. I never regretted that decision once, even through I have 3 dear friends that I care about still in, and miss quite a bit. I have managed to have some come and go relationships with them since, but at the end of the day, the relationships are still toxic. You can love a heroin addict, but you cannot allow yourself to be in their regular company. They have to want to change. Those under the spell of "The Lie" are no different.
Congrats to you!
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Watchtower Changes. Why
by new hope and happiness infollowing on from a recent post that asked for a list of the watchtower changers since you left, it would be intetesting to compile the list with why the changes were made.. .
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Legal/monetary are pretty much cut from the same mold. In the end, they are about protecting the WT's material assets.
A third reason would be controlling the sheep. This has both monetary and illustrative value. WT not only needs the money of the R&F, but also needs the numbers unto itself, since any "increase" indicates Jehovah's blessing, supposedly. If the lose control of the R&F, eventually people leave.
The part of this they do not understand, (consistent with any authoritarian regime), is that the tighter they make their grip, the further they push their best and brightest out. This is commonly referred to as brian drain in the corporate world.
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Reaching Someone on the Human Level
by done4good inprior to these last few days, it has been a few years since i posted here.
i was, for the most part, able to move on quite effectively from my jw experience, (from about the age of 5 to 33), so after about 2 or 3 years, i have mostly just read here as a lurker for the past 5 years or so.
it is time to contribute again.. recently, over the last 7 months, i have been through an ordeal involving some dear jw friends of mine.
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Thank you for your response, Ecan6. These are about the only people I even consider to be family, (even my own JW family do not mean a whole lot to me, as we were never that close), so this is really a first time experiencing this type of pain over losing someone due to my decision to leave the org.
Do I ever understand now why some people chose the fading route. I apologize to those whom I may have been a bit hard on with fading in the past.
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