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Climate: Natural disasters

by hibiscusfire in

i live in the tropics so we experience hot and rainy weather.

where i live the sun is very hot at this time that your skin feel as though it's on fire.

i have never experienced snow.

serotonin_wraith

The Bible is indeed hand me down information

Fixed.

I think I know the real reason for not answering any of this...

You can't answer in your own words, and now that I've exposed your love of quoting sites it's not something you can rely on as much.

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WHAT do YOU know about JESUS... and His teachings?

by hibiscusfire in

i am interested to know what you know about jesus and what you really think of his teachings.. the bible says there is only one way to heaven.. jesus said: "i am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father but by me.

" (john 14:6) .

the lord jesus was crucified and shed his precious blood to wipe away our sins (revelation 1:5).

serotonin_wraith

Hibie,

Why are you continuing to take direct quotes from apologetics sites? Why aren't you thinking for yourself?

Your latest 'wise words' can be found here- http://66.102.9.104/custom?q=cache:2VrH1xpgNukJ:www.chick.com/reading/books/0253/0253.pdf+Self-Existent+One+by+virtue+of+the+visible+creation+we+can+see.&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=30&client=pub-7560970013795481

Or here- http://www.chick.com/reading/books/0253/0253.pdf

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This is happening too frequently now, and you aren't even giving the proper people credit. I'm sure Jesus wouldn't want you to be dishonest.

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Climate: Natural disasters

by hibiscusfire in

i live in the tropics so we experience hot and rainy weather.

where i live the sun is very hot at this time that your skin feel as though it's on fire.

i have never experienced snow.

serotonin_wraith

That is not murder. They people committed suicide.

So if you have a kid and tell them to obey you, and they don't, and you kill them, they've commited suicide?

If the people did not mock and had believed they would have taken their babies into the ark too. And as for the animals, when in time of natural disasters...what happens to the animals?

If God had wanted to keep the innocent babies safe he could have. But he decided they should die for what their parents did. Would you kill the baby of a murderer?

God could have protected the animals too, but chose not to. Would you drown a puppy, even if it had no soul?

He did not do anything to be crucified.

Perhaps not, but Judas and the soldiers should be commended for making sure he died for our sins... right? Didn't their actions save us all?

If I quote from the bible does that mean I can't think of my own answers too? I am giving you some evidence which ofcourse you would not accept.

You needed the apologetics to get you out of a tough spot. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the 'intelligent sounding' stuff you post isn't your own thinking. Using the Bible to back the Bible up is circular logic. No evidence there.

It takes the Holy Spirit to reveal the meaning. Do you accept it?

No. I will not listen to a voice in my head when there is scientific evidence to prove the Bible wrong. If you want to trust a feeling because you're afraid of death, that's up to you.

The Lord of the Rings is fiction. Everyone knows that. The Bible is real and historical.

Prove it. Don't try and prove it by saying there are some historical towns and leaders mentioned, that doesn't make the whole thing true.

Whether you choose to believe me or not....you will discover the truth one day....most definitely. I hope it wouldn't be too late for you. You are determining your future...do you know what happens when you die?

No I don't. Religions have made all kinds of threats about that. Perhaps I will end up in helheim (from Norse religion) or Duat (from Egyptian religion), perhaps you will too. Maybe you've chosen the wrong god to worship. I know I won't end up in any Biblical hell though, because that god certainly doesn't exist. It's a shame fear has held you captive to this myth.

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BBC show- The Big Questions

by serotonin_wraith in

i only managed to catch parts of it as i was working, but i was impressed with what i saw.

i'd love to see it in full, so if anyone spots it's been uploaded somewhere let me know.. the bbc is launching a new major tv programme called the big questions this weekend.

its aim is to move the discussion of diverse beliefs and ethics out of a narrow 'religion' bracket, and to respond creatively to the debates taking place in modern britain.

serotonin_wraith

Did anyone get to see this? I only managed to catch parts of it as I was working, but I was impressed with what I saw. I'd love to see it in full, so if anyone spots it's been uploaded somewhere let me know.

The BBC is launching a new major TV programme called The Big Questions this weekend. Its aim is to move the discussion of diverse beliefs and ethics out of a narrow 'religion' bracket, and to respond creatively to the debates taking place in modern Britain.
BBC One’s new programme on the what motivates our morals and convictions takes to the airwaves on Sunday 9 September 2007 at 10am – with a discussion on the relationship of religion to public perceptions of moral decline.
The programme, which replaces The Heaven and Earth Show, will be presented by broacaster and journalist Nicky Campbell. Each week it will take a look at the belief and ethical questions behind the news, tackling a range of topical subjects and issues, say the producers.
A panel of four guests will lead the debate, offering a range of faith and non-faith perspectives, alongside contributions from the studio audience. Viewers will also be invited to call, email and text in their comments.
Nicky Campbell said today: “I am delighted to be presenting The Big Questions. It promises to be the sort of programme I enjoy most – live and topical with a studio audience debating the stories that matter."
He added: “There are few places on television where you have the time and space to tackle really important subjects, so it’s a great opportunity and very exciting.”
The panel for the first programme will be journalist Amanda Platell; Jonathan Bartley, co-director of the theological think-thank Ekklesia; Dr Jeevan Deol, an academic specialising in religion and politics; and the scientist and broadcaster Dr Alice Roberts.
The Big Questions is produced by Mentorn Oxford, makers of BBC One’s high profile Question Time. With the show coming from various locations across the country during its 24 week run, the first programme comes from Wychwood school in Oxford.
A major focus for the first programme will be a new BBC commissioned survey which reveals that 83% of an monitored sample agreed or strongly agreed with that statement that Britain is experiencing moral decline.
A majority also said that they thought religion could play an important role in moral guidance, with a significant minority (nearly 30 per cent) disagreeing.
"We need more informed debate on the role of both religious and non-religious belief systems today", said Ekklesia's Jonathan Bartley. "The Big Questions can play an important part in taking that discussion forward in the public arena. It needs to be lively, engaging and topical."
Bartley contributes regularly to BBC Radio 4's Thought for the Day, among other radio, TV, newspaper and new media commitments. He runs Ekklesia with co-director Simon Barrow, a writer and theologian.
Earlier this year Ekklesia argued that humanists and non-believers should be able to contribute to the Thought for the Day slot alongside Christians and those of other faith backgrounds.

Taken from http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/5650

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Ask Jehovah anything you'd like...

by nvrgnbk in

jw
friends

bet you he doesn't answer.. (this wager does not include the ongoing conversation between jehovah and jcanon).

serotonin_wraith

From another recent topic:

Seeing as apologetics have enough trouble explaining how all the animals managed to fit on the ark, where was the room for all the sinners even if they had wanted to get onboard?

Edit: This one was said already, sorry!

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Climate: Natural disasters

by hibiscusfire in

i live in the tropics so we experience hot and rainy weather.

where i live the sun is very hot at this time that your skin feel as though it's on fire.

i have never experienced snow.

serotonin_wraith

However, what people fail to realise is that God did not murder anyone.

Huh? Whatever the reasons, the story says he drowned them. On purpose. To kill them. In other words, he MURDERED them!

Those people were very bad. They were thieves, liars and murderers.

All of them? Even the babies? And all the animals?

They were given a chance to go on the ark. They didn't go.

Exactly where was the room for them on the ark if they had wanted to go? Apologetics have enough trouble trying to explain how all the animals had enough room!

Jesus was murdered for nothing.

Oh. I thought it was so that we could have the chance of everlasting life. I must have been mistaken.

What about you thinking for yourself as well? hmmmmm?

I'm not the one quoting sites because I can't think of my own answers.

If the glass is supposed to be ice, then God shouldn't have lied and called it glass.

The book is old. Why would it lie?

How does the passage of time make something true? Will Lord of the Rings be true in 2,000 years?

You have just assumed the Bible is the word of the creator of the Universe because of the society you were raised in. If you lived in a place or time where another god had more followers, you would be believing in that one instead. Once you can get your head around that point, you may be able to break free from the superstition and myth. I have a feeling it's too late for you though, so maybe the best I can hope for is that you don't indoctrinate your own children (if or when you have any, if you don't now) or persuade anyone else to believe as you do.

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I went to Barnes & Noble yesterday....

by journey-on in

jw
friends

and bought two books that have been recommended by jwd posters:.

"how to read a book" by mortimer j. adler & charles van doren.

"the power of now" by eckhart tolle.

serotonin_wraith

As bad timing would have it, CoC is what I'm reading atm. But I've just finished God is not Great, and next on the list to read is The Mind of a Bible Believer by Edmund D Cohen. I've skimmed it and it looks very good. It mentions the trademarks of cults (which people have used to escape the JWs) and applies them to most of Christianity.

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