LOL! Posting just to bring this back to 7777
nameless_one
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The Time 777-9311 (What's your phone number?)
by MsMcDucket inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfhq0t_hvrq&feature=related.
page 7777 got me to thinking about this song.
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August 1980 Kingdom Ministry about Apostasy & Franz resignation
by cabasilas ini was sorting some papers tonight and came across a copy of the august 1980 km which announced the "apostasy against the organization" (a letter from the governing body) and has the notification that raymond franz was no longer a member of the governing body and bethel family.
i remember reading this just as i was making plans to disassociate myself at the same time.
this copy of the km was in some papers that belonged to my mother-in-law (who passed away several years ago).
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nameless_one
Thanks for this, cabasilas. Interesting how they buried and downplayed the "news" as if it were the most mundane of matters; I suspect many or most didn't note or register its significance at all.
And also, on a side note, the graphical layout of this is ridiculous! I have never seen such a jumbled, awkward mess of broken text. It has no logical flow at all and is very convoluted and hard to follow (no surprise there I suppose, LOL).
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comments on Sherri Shepard from the view on her countless abortions....
by orbison11 inoh my, this gal is an x jw,,now on the view,,,.
,now a born again.
her son lives with the dad in california, and she flies out for the weekend to see him.
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Honestly, I have no idea who this person is.
Same here, I'd never heard of this person before I read this thread. I still wish I'd never heard of her -
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Feeling Vulnerable
by megs inokay... help... i'm feeling weak right now... i haven't spoken to my dub in 6 weeks, still not over him, still thinking about him far more than i should... anyway... when we were talking, he got me going to meetings (we live in diff places) and a nice pioneer lady took me under her wing.
i gave his email addy to the lady and they correspond.
so, me and the dub had a falling out when i told him all of the issues i had with the wts.
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Hi, megs. There is lots of good advice in this thread. I think, as others have suggested, that you might be wanting to open things up again with this pioneer because she represents a tenuous link to your friend. I hope you won't do that; you know in your heart that this lady has an ulterior agenda, and that it is really counter to your welfare and your best interests. If it feels too harsh or rude to you to just stop reading her emails cold, maybe send her a short message thanking her for her concern but clearly letting her know that contact won't be continuing. THEN stop reading her emails :-)
As for your friend himself, I wonder if you are equating your response or non-response to this pioneer with your fear of cutting off all hopes for the future with your friend. They are not the same thing! JWs pursuing studies tend to have the most success when preying on weakness and despair, and you really don't want to fall back into this mess because of a patch of vulnerability that will pass in time. Please don't compromise your life and your beliefs and your future for the hope of what might or might not happen with your friend down the road -- plunging yourself into the darkness won't turn on a light for him, it will just blacken your world too. If he ever starts to wake up and open his mind to the idea of respecting and accepting you for the good and lovely non-JW person you are, well that will be a beautiful thing and you have certainly left the door open for him to do that. But HE has to do it and see it himself, you can't do it for him. It's OK to hope that he will wake up, just don't sacrifice your own life on the gamble.
Maybe in the next days and weeks you can make a special point of spending fun times with friends, doing things you enjoy, experiencing and noting the millions of big and little things that make a free and happy life worth holding on to. I know it hurts now, and I understand the vulnerability and the despair, but you've come such a long way from where you started and giving that up would be a terrible shame. Hold strong :-) -
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Those With JW Spouses - How are you Coping ? Any experiences ?
by flipper ini wanted to address the folks on board here who really have a challenge on their hands.
and i feel it's good for us to acknowledge the great job many of them are accomplishing with the pressures they have on them living with a spouse in a mind control cult.
i know it would be so easy sometimes for some in that position to say , " the hell with it !
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I am looking forward to my wife reading these threads one day. I also am a bit scared that she will be concerned that our marriage was discussed here, but I still look forward to having to explain why when she reads it.
Very similar situation for me, except I am a never-JW UBM.
I have found JWD to be a lifeline that keeps me sane in many ways. I have learned so much, not just about the WTS itself but about the real, individual people it grinds up and spits out. It is also freeing to just be around others who understand all this crap, because no one else in my world does! I've found much help and encouragement here, and try to give the same where I can, but I also am very careful about the words I write and share, because I hope with all my heart that my JW will be here some day in the future. So I always (or at least usually LOL) post with that in my mind.
As for coping, my way is one day at a time, one inch at a time, slow and steady. There's no other alternative available to me really. -
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I noticed it too, because 7 is my favorite number! Not that it's ever done me any actual good or brought me any actual luck mind you, but I am still drawn to it for some reason. So I like the picture of the 7's on the page of 7's and thanks for posting it LOL
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First Time Blood Donor
by AudeSapere inthere is a blood drive at work this coming tuesday.. i'm scheduled for 10:00am and this will be my first donation.
does anyone have any suggestions to make it successful?.
i volunteered about 2 years ago but got sick the day before and so i was declined.
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nameless_one
I'm sorry it didn't work out that you were able to donate blood. There do seem to be a lot of exclusions that don't make any sense, though I'm no expert on the matter. It sounds like this was important to you; have you considered other ways of contributing? I imagine there are other volunteer opportunities involved with blood drives beyond the actual donating of blood, and if it's an important issue to you, that could be something to look into. Just a thought, and kudos for wanting to donate and feeling excited about it :-)
Edited to add: I'm not able to donate either, for different reasons, and understand what you mean about the feelings of "rejected." If this is an important issue to you though, I do hope you'll investigate other ways to become a part of it. -
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The elders came last night and i stood my NEW ground!!! be proud!
by New light for you inso yes, the brothers came for "encouragement" and of course, my husband is out of town on business... so it was me and the kids.. so i did let them in, i like these brothers...these are some things we discussed.... 1. i went over how that stupid "obey" email got all this started, got me to divulge to my girlfriend how i was feeling about the whole religion.
about how at the end of the call she said that she can't associate with me anymore, and then right after that call/ 30seconds later while i'm crying a pioneer called and asked "do you consider yourself one of jeh witnesses anymore??
" and i thought that was crazy for someone to try to trap me when i was sitting crying on the phone, upset with the last call... i told them that for all purposes i am already dfed since noone will talk to me anymore, and only one friend called to see what happened, everyone else just listened to the gossip of whatever spread, and wrote me off even though i'm technically in good standing.
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i told them.... you're setting up the questions! of course you have the answers, i dont know if you have the right questions!
This observation is brilliant and fundamental
Congratulations on your courage and your clarity, I think the way you handled this was absolutely awesome. Regardless of what happens next, you've surely left those guys scratching their heads and wondering which way is up. Freedom to think what you want and say what you think is so empowering; I'm not surprised you feel spunky and brave and alive, because you ARE all those things!
Beautiful job all around, and a strong, powerful example to set for your kids as well -
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Funny/strange things you ate as a kid.
by IP_SEC inok i'll start.. 13 y/o or so.. once it rained for a month straight.
we had an old dry tank dump in the back that filled up with water.
there were tons of frogs that showed up and started breeding.. i was looking at them on the edge of the water through my .22 scope.
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nameless_one
I used to eat paper. And dried Elmers glue. But not together LOL.
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A continuum of consciousness and love
by Nathan Natas inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adybfqfxg0u.
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nameless_one
BabaYaga, thank you for posting those additional links! The information and photos on the George Adamson site are remarkable, and I like knowing that the original video is true and genuine. This thread has brought some happy smiles to my day :-)
(And John Doe, thanks for that video showing the opposite end of the spectrum -- that person is a complete dumbass and serves as a nice juxtaposition )