Posts by dedalus

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My Memorial Experience

by dedalus in

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i forgot all about the memorial.

(fortunately, my wife and i did not accidentally partake of any saltines or grape juice.).

so, on this year's nisen 14, i played some racquetball in the late afternoon with one of my brothers, and in the evening i had a wonderful dinner with my wife and daughter.

dedalus

I forgot all about the memorial. (Fortunately, my wife and I did not accidentally partake of any saltines or grape juice.)

So, on this year's Nisen 14, I played some racquetball in the late afternoon with one of my brothers, and in the evening I had a wonderful dinner with my wife and daughter. The moon that night was unusually large, and my daughter kept babbling at it in her own secret language, and to the cats we have outside, who alone seem to understand her. Later we fell asleep in a happy huddled heap after reading stories and singing lullabies.

There was more spirituality in this typical family-oriented day than in a dozen memorials.

Dedalus

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I cut off my last ties to the JWs today.

by NaruNaruChan in

my old best friend had to return my dvd to me from six months ago... she lost it, so she paid me back.

it was an interesting situation, because i had been speaking to her up until the beginning of april, when if you remember i posted asking for advice on what to do about it.

i was too weirded out talking to her, so i decided to tell her to shun me.

dedalus

Sometimes when you try to keep those old friendships going, things just end up festering. Recently an old friend got in touch and we wrote for a while, but she was always talking about quick-builds and conventions and bible studies and meetings and watchtowers, all of which I replied to pleasantly enough, meanwhile annoyed that she wouldn't hear a word of what was going on in my life. When I DA'd myself the correspondence ended, but by then I was thankful for it. Too many spiritual platitudes had made real friendship impossible.

I'm sure you've done the right thing for your particular situation, Naru.

Dedalus

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Know what makes me terribly sad about some on these forums?

by Derrick in

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i find something very distressing not to mention terribly sad about some of you people (and to those who are not one of these people i kindly ask to please don't fly into some "i'm so insulted!

" snit as if i'm wrongfully referring to you).

to those people i'm referring to i say: you rightfully hope for the british and u.s. military to destroy that saddam monster and its minions of mass-murdering/worshippers throughout iraq.

dedalus

I had forgotten your posts, too. I never complained about you not posting to this topic again

Oh, so what is this comment?:
Not expecting meaningful answers to any of this. I mean, I very carefully explained why I disagreed with you, but none of that's worth addressing, evidently.
Warm fuzzies for everybody? I still say that discussion boards are for discussion. What's your problem with that?

All of this is in reference to a post you had already made, a post in which you had ignored my confusion about your gross misinterpretation of Derrick's original post. You still haven't addressed those comments. I have a feeling you never will.

No, I do not expect warm fuzzies, nor do I expect somebody to jump the gun and call his questions dumb or accuse him of a drive by.

For the umpteenth time, that's not all I did. And I apologized for the "drive by" thing, a remark directed at him, not you. What else am I supposed to do about that now? Why do you keep bringing it up?

What is wrong with a civil reply? I think that if you were standing face to face with Derrick, you would be more polite--unless you are as big a bad ass as you like to come across on this board. Using this board to make up for deficiencies in real life, ded?

Interesting. You criticize me for not being civil in a matter for which I apologized, then proceed to accuse me of deficiencies in my "real life." Hmmmm.

That is one of your problems, ded, you assume. I wouldn't accept your apology if you were to offer it. So, no, I am not looking for an apology from you of all people. Perhaps, when your opinion means something to me, I will.

I don't owe you an apology for anything. My opinion obviously means something to you, or you wouldn't still be on this thread harping on these same tired points. And vice versa. But you, big person that you are, are beyond accepting (or, it seems, giving) apologies. Hats off to you, then.

Your paranoia speaks volumes. And it is so loud, I am going to have to turn my speakers down. I find it funny that YOU have to malign my motives. Does that mean that you are pulling a Watchtower trick?

More of the same. You really don't want to have an on-topic discussion, do you? Now I'm paranoid, and all the more reason not to respond to anything that actually matters in this thread.

And nothing that you have said is a complaint? You hypocricy is astonishing. Of all the posters on this thread, only you took insult to my comments. That says a bundle about you. And how is your vitriolic responses to me accomplishing anything? Oh, that's right, they aren't. Just another medium for you to blow hard.

You could have explained to me how I misunderstood the wonderful questions Derrick asked in his thread. Instead, you've characterized me as a "blow hard" who is a "hypocrite" with too much "vitriolic prose," who tries to be too "clever" and is trying to get attention ... did I miss anything? Oh, yeah, I'm paranoid and looking to pick a fight.

What did I say to you that came anywhere close to that?

Warm fuzzies to you,

Dedalus

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Rude and Disrespectful Replies

by Guest 77 in

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one of the things i hate in life is rude and disrespectful individuals.

it is my understanding that all opinions are welcome on this forum.

some, a few, seem to think their views and opinions is encased in gold.

dedalus

Go to hell, dumbass.

Dedalus

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Your favourite greeting to the brothers?

by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in

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i always find delight in greeting any of the jw's from my area with - "hello brother (or sister) so-and-so, and how in the devil are you?

" no response, i usually try to follow up with - "i see that you are still suffering from watchtower induced self-righteous hypocrisy.".

there is always much pleasure to be had by coming up behind them in a supermarket for example, and giving them the hello brother treatment.

dedalus

While at the toy store with my daughter a haggard old dub came up to me. She must have recognized me from a convention or something, because she said, "Hey, you go to da Kingdom Hall?" I must have looked dumbfounded -- it seemed such a bizarre question, and her bloodshot eyes were bugging out of her head -- so she repeated, "I say, you go to da Kingdom Hall?"

I played dumb. "The what?"

"Da Kingdom Hall!"

I screwed up my face in consternation. "Is that the new medieval restaurant-theatre downtown?"

Now it was her turn to look confused.

Dedalus

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Know what makes me terribly sad about some on these forums?

by Derrick in

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i find something very distressing not to mention terribly sad about some of you people (and to those who are not one of these people i kindly ask to please don't fly into some "i'm so insulted!

" snit as if i'm wrongfully referring to you).

to those people i'm referring to i say: you rightfully hope for the british and u.s. military to destroy that saddam monster and its minions of mass-murdering/worshippers throughout iraq.

dedalus

Just because you think it is a stupid question, does not make it so.

You're right. That's why I spent a lot of time, like other posters in this thread, explaining why I disagreed with him. I presented evidence from the Watchtower's own publications. I have detailed examples of the sorts of things I've seen, and I addressed specific parts of Derrick's posts. I never said it was a stupid question and just left it at that, and it's dishonest for you to insinuate that I have.

Derrick has a right to ask questions.

Did I say he didn't? If not, what's your point?

And yet you took insult.

No, I disagreed. There's a difference. What, are we all supposed to hold hands and gape with respect anytime one of us offers up an opinion? Warm fuzzies for everybody? I still say that discussion boards are for discussion. What's your problem with that?

Can you please allow somebody to live a life outside of this board?

In what way am I preventing people from living a life outside of this board? Are you usually this melodramatic? If you are referring to the way I accused Derrick of a "hit and run," I apologized for that. I meant it, too. Why are you still bringing it up? Why are you still "taking insult"?

I had forgotten all about your posts. Wow, I know that it seems impossible that somebody wouldn't wait with baited breath to hear your clever responses, but I didn't.

I had forgotten your posts, too. I never complained about you not posting to this topic again. Frankly, I was glad you didn't -- you obviously have little of substance to contribute to the topic of this thread -- which currently has to do with Derrick's claim about a major Watchtower doctrine, not some petty remark I made and, once again, apologized for already.

You are obviously itching for a fight.

No. This is an interesting and important discussion to me. I assumed it was for Derrick, too. As for you -- am I supposed to apologize to you for saying that you defended Derrick? Was that such a terrible thing to have done?

But it's a good old Watchtower trick you're trying to pull -- instead of addressing anything I've said about the topic, malign my motives so people will have an excuse to ignore me.

You are right, you falsely accused Derrick and now he has responded to you so,

That "false accusation," which I apologized for nearly a week ago now, is not the point of this thread. The point of this thread has to do with Derrick's claim that the Watchtower does NOT teach that all non-Witnesses will die at Armageddon. I happen to disagree with Derrick. I gave reasons why, just like I gave reasons for disagreeing with your post, when you said Derrick was saying something that he didn't say. You know, I took your post to heart and reread Derrick's original post carefully. And I just don't see what you were talking about. I already explained why. Why not respond to that?

Derrick has yet to respond to the evidence I presented in this discussion. You have yet to do anything except complain about my attitude.

there is no need to address it.

Then what was the point of your post?

Dedalus

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Another Frustrating Phone Conversation

by teenyuck in

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my mother just phoned.

she just wanted to say "hi"....supposedly.

her--how is your husband?

dedalus

Besides, she really seems to dislike men...

There you go!

I guess I did sound a little pissy ...

You had a right to be. She calls you hoping for bad news, practically begging for you to have an awful life. How offensive, especially considering she's your mother! And her haughty derision of charities is absolutely maddening.

Dedalus

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Another Frustrating Phone Conversation

by teenyuck in

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my mother just phoned.

she just wanted to say "hi"....supposedly.

her--how is your husband?

dedalus

Hey Teenyuck,

I used to have conversations like that with my mother all the time. Turned out she was a lesbian. She eventually realized it and left the organization and is perfectly wonderful now.

Here's hoping you're mom's a lesbian too,

Dedalus

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Know what makes me terribly sad about some on these forums?

by Derrick in

jw
friends

i find something very distressing not to mention terribly sad about some of you people (and to those who are not one of these people i kindly ask to please don't fly into some "i'm so insulted!

" snit as if i'm wrongfully referring to you).

to those people i'm referring to i say: you rightfully hope for the british and u.s. military to destroy that saddam monster and its minions of mass-murdering/worshippers throughout iraq.

dedalus

Truly evil people make up a very small percentage of the people of the earth. Truly good people make up a very small percentage on the other end of the spectrum. Most people live day to day and just try to survive and have a bit of happiness now and again.

And Witnesses believe that Jehovah's going to kill all of them. Dedalus

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Daughter counselled on dating a wordly guy

by minimus in

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my daughter recieved this email from one of her witness "friends".

she is counseling my daughter (indirectly) about her choice to date a "worldly" guy.. hey, so, we had a talk recently that was about love & respect in your marriage.

the brother brought out that this was more for us witnesses rather than worldly people, because it seems that even in the truth now marriage has lost it's correct place.

dedalus

I love the phrase "worldly guy," as in, "that's still no excuse to date a worldly guy." Hey, now that I'm DA'd, am I a "worldly guy" too? That would make me feel like such a badass ...

Dedalus