Posts by LtCmd.Lore

64

Athiests

by BR25 in

jw
friends

sorry if i that is the wrong spelling.

i just want to say that i used to be judgemental of athiests, but as a jw backer everyone on here finds nothing but wrong doing with the orginizations.

well i am sure i can find wrong doing with other churches and their teachings as well.

LtCmd.Lore

Fulfilled prophecy is an ATHEISTS NIGHTMARE

Sorry Vinny, that monkey on your head is still your baby for good*. You can spew crap about prophecies (that are only fulfilled in the very book that makes them) all you want, but it's all just talk.

Here's a look at some of your fulfilled prophecies, as listed, by you, here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/132307/2362210/post.ashx#2362210

Jesus was born of a woman: Duh! The only other options are that he was born of a man, born of an animal, or simply poofed into existance. All three of which would be much more miraculous. It would have taken a miracle for this one NOT to have come true.

_

Jesus was born of a virgin: Prove it! We only have Matthew's word on this, how the heck would he know? The only reason we would assume he knows what he's talking about is if we think the Bible is inspired, and we only believe that the Bible is inspired because of the prophecies... do you see the loop here?

_

Herod kills the children predicted: Jer 31:15, the scripture you claimed prophecied this, says: 15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.

Taken in context this scripture is nothing like a prophecy. It's a documentation of events that already happened to Rahel, followed by comfort because her children will return. Plus Ramah is over 20 miles from Bethlehem. It's also worth mentioning, that Matthew is the only record of this slaughter even taking place. If all the young children in that area were murdered by the king, you'd think there would be a whole bunch of poems, songs, stories and records of that event. Not to mention the angry mobs demanding revenge. Yet outside of the book of Matthew this event did not happen.

If you think it did happen, it's only because you believe then bible, and then you use this to prove the bible is true... once again, it's just circular reasoning...

_

I'm not about to go through that huge list of 'prophecies' Most of which are unverifiable. And the rest of them are so vauge that they could easily be applied to anyone in history.

So if you can pick ONE AT A TIME that you want me to respond to, then pick THE MOST CONVINCING prophecy you can find, and tell it too me.

If you choose more than one, I'll only respond to one... whichever one I want. So take your best shot.

Lore

(All I can say is, I'd much rather have a $50,000 corvette on my head than a flying purple monkey anyday.)

* Don't worry, I swear to never mimmik Vinny again... it's just that he seems to view his own style as so convincing, I figured it would be worth a shot.

77

Does A School Yard Bully Attitude Take Over This Discussion Board?

by The wanderer in

jw
friends

does a school yard bully attitude take over this discussion board?growing up, i can recall such times when a rival would want to pick a fight .

with me and when we met, he would bring along two of his friends and i .

sometimes, i would knock their block off and sometimes, it was the other.

LtCmd.Lore

I for one enjoy a good fight, battle of wits, or struggle. It is exciting and helps to shed pent up frustration. We don't come here just to massage each others belief system. We come here to test our own beliefs and views in the arena of debate.

I agree wholeheartedly. I don't hold grudges, so I get into debates purely for the fun of it. I learn something new every time.

For example the last debate I was in got me researching 'secular morality'.

The one before that had me learning all kinds of new stuff about abiogenesis.

I learn all kinds of things, I have fun, I release stress, and I check my beliefs.

Lore

11

rude people at the door

by BR25 in

jw
friends

why you were part of the jw faith and you were by yourself at a persons door ,who was really rude toward you, did you ever say anything nasty back instead of saying have a nice day?

also did you ever want to just knock someone out?

any experiences or thoughts of what you wanted to do?

LtCmd.Lore

heh heh heh... the memories are coming back.

Yeah, I had some real jerks at the door.

64

Athiests

by BR25 in

jw
friends

sorry if i that is the wrong spelling.

i just want to say that i used to be judgemental of athiests, but as a jw backer everyone on here finds nothing but wrong doing with the orginizations.

well i am sure i can find wrong doing with other churches and their teachings as well.

LtCmd.Lore

You see, your monkey thing does not even apply here.

**********YES IT DOES!

It applies way more than the pathetic little corvette does to atheists! You offer no justification for your claim that this doesn't apply little Vanny. Prove it doesn't fit. No don't because you can't. Because you and I are both aware that one supernatural entity is just as silly as the next.*

Purple flying monkeys, invisible pink unicorns, gods, flying spaghetti monsters, fairies, elves. They're all the same.

***Bwaa haa haa!!! ROTFLOL !!!!1!! N00B U SUX LOL!

From now on, whenever I look at you, I'll see a big purple winged monkey sitting RIGHT ON YOUR HEAD. You earned it Vinnie! It's your baby for life and you know it! Because you can't explain god without circular logic!

Hey everyone, look at little venny, he's got a winged purple monkey on his head! That's not very attractive Vunny, the other kindergardeners will make fun of you and your PURPLE MONKEY.

stupid formatting **********

*****LOL I'm busting a gut laughing at the little theist.

Bwaa haa haa haa haa!!!!!1!!! LOOK AT WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SELL YOU, VINY BELIEVES IN FLYING PURPLE MONKIES... If you buy into that let me sell you some real-estate in heaven LOLs.

Sorry I'm the one who has to tell you this, but that's the bed you have made for yourself vonnie.

(Sorry everyone... I couldn't resist... but I'm pretty sure everyone will agree I was at least partly justified in that. [exept Vinny] Just in case you're ashamed of me, I feel it neccessary to point out that I was only mimicking Vinny, and I'm not normally that obnoxious.)

Lore

Edited to add: Although... I will definately be remembering that purple flying monkey the next time Vinny shows up spouting hate speach.

94

Why 6 Billion People Deserve to Die in Armageddon

by Leolaia in

jehovah is such a righteous, merciful, loving god -- slow to anger, overflowing with loving kindness and blessing.

yet it somehow bothers many of you that he will shortly execute his judgment on mankind and wipe out 99.9% of the world's population, as if that somehow is supposed to conflict with his loving qualities.

personally, i have no idea why many of you feel this way.

LtCmd.Lore

Hey, that cat is missing a rear leg. Look closer at the original pic.

It was lost in the explosion...

94

Why 6 Billion People Deserve to Die in Armageddon

by Leolaia in

jehovah is such a righteous, merciful, loving god -- slow to anger, overflowing with loving kindness and blessing.

yet it somehow bothers many of you that he will shortly execute his judgment on mankind and wipe out 99.9% of the world's population, as if that somehow is supposed to conflict with his loving qualities.

personally, i have no idea why many of you feel this way.

LtCmd.Lore

Awesome, I'm saving this.

Brilliant Leolaia... I always used to think of the people in those pictures as murderers and theives. Not anymore!

I might have some fun during the next watchtower study with an armageddon picture in it.

Lore

12

WEIRD 911 FACTS, YOU GOTTA CHECK THIS OUT

by horrible life in

my daughter received this in her email.

the last paragraph is scary.

if you don't have microsoft word, you can do the same thing in notepad.

LtCmd.Lore

HOAX http://www.hoax-slayer.com/wingdings-911.html Q33 NY did not hit the trade towers.

PSSHAW, I should've known. Any truely impressive evidence for the supernatural must be a hoax.

450

Isn't God Awesome?

by Perry in

http://wonderofitall.com/

LtCmd.Lore

Something else I just thought of:

One of the first things a parent want's their children to learn is how to tell the difference between right and wrong.

A mother want's her child to know what's right, and not have to ask her every time something comes up.

She doesn't want her 32 year old son calling her from out of town saying: "Hey mom, I'm hungery, should I go to McDonalds or should I kill my neighbor and take his food?"

So why would god want his children to have to turn to him every two minutes and ask the 'holy spirit' whether they're doing the right thing?

Lore

12

WEIRD 911 FACTS, YOU GOTTA CHECK THIS OUT

by horrible life in

my daughter received this in her email.

the last paragraph is scary.

if you don't have microsoft word, you can do the same thing in notepad.

LtCmd.Lore

Well I gotta say. That is THE most convincing prophecy/fulfillment I've ever seen.

There's nothing in the Bible that even comes close.

450

Isn't God Awesome?

by Perry in

http://wonderofitall.com/

LtCmd.Lore

So how does the holy spirit know the difference between right and wrong?
Here we reach what really is the bottom line for you isn't it?

Nope, acctually I never really thought of that question before our conversation on this thread. But I'm adding it to my list of unanswered questions about god, since somehow: "The self-existing one is also self-knowing." is more like a cop-out than an honest attempt at answering the question...

I'm trying to a have a philosophical discussion about the nature of good and evil here. You claimed that atheists can't figure out where morality comes from. And I responded with a link to a comprehensive answer to that exact question... you didn't like the answer, so I summarized it. You didn't like that either. But I did my best, and described in relatively good detail where morality ultimately comes from for atheists. I didn't insult your motives, and I thought I was being pretty friendly all things considered.

So when I asked you a question about where your morality ultimately comes from, I expected a better response than you just insulting my motives for two paragraphs and then finally giving me a single-sentence curt non-answer.

If you ask him he'll manuever you into a position where you could believe. He did it with me and millions of other folks who have asked. If you would just walk with him a while you'd see the masterful way in which He slowly changes your desires into that which brings maximum freedom, harmony, peace and many other things.

I was a christian for 16 years. I honestly loved god more than my own parents at age 9. He didn't do diddly squat. So don't tell me that I have to go to him, I already did and it didn't work.

The only time I feel peace and harmony is when I have a clear head and can really think things through. God makes that impossible.

You'd be surprised at the inner peace that comes from atheism. So right back at ya': If you would just leave god out of your life, you'd see the masterful way in which you can pursue your desires and attain maximum freedom, harmony, peace and many other things.

I'll bet you can't tell me that you were an atheist for 16 (Or even 2) years can you? Well as someone who's been on both sides of the coin, I can honestly tell you that I'm much happier now.

If you ask him he'll manuever you into a position where you could believe.

'Here we reach what really is the bottom line for you isn't it?' You believe in god because you want too.

Quite frankly, after our discussion, I'm no longer interested in your opinions on morality. By your own admission you can't determine right from wrong by yourself, you have to get it from the holy spirit... Why in the heck would I want to be a part of that?

Why is god omni-benevolent? Because he decides what's good and bad, so therefore if he murders innocent people and torments them forever it's good... It's hard to be labeled evil when you're the one who makes the definitions.

If there is no logical basis for gods moral decisions, then it is nothing more than his personal opinion.

Lore