She would probably come to your home and shun you there.
I'd have to agree with that - she's a hard core long time JW - elder husband, whole ball game.
just had to post this as i know it will give some of you a chuckle.. i'm throwing a party next month here at my house - a bbq - for my oldest.
he is graduating and i thought it would be fun for him to have his friends over the weekend after graduation to celebrate.
we have a pretty big back yard and i'm hoping the weather is sunny.
She would probably come to your home and shun you there.
I'd have to agree with that - she's a hard core long time JW - elder husband, whole ball game.
just had to post this as i know it will give some of you a chuckle.. i'm throwing a party next month here at my house - a bbq - for my oldest.
he is graduating and i thought it would be fun for him to have his friends over the weekend after graduation to celebrate.
we have a pretty big back yard and i'm hoping the weather is sunny.
Just had to post this as I know it will give some of you a chuckle.
I'm throwing a party next month here at my house - a bbq - for my oldest. He is graduating and I thought it would be fun for him to have his friends over the weekend after graduation to celebrate. We have a pretty big back yard and I'm hoping the weather is sunny. I'm inviting my in-laws (not JW's), my son's friends (all non-JW's) and their parent's (also all non-JW's). I also invited my mom who is a JW.
I'm talking with my mom and she asks if her friend who will be in town that weekend (a JW) is invited to the party also. Now mind you - I've been DF'd for well over 14 years. This "friend" has seen my son maybe once or twice in that time, has possibly met my husband once (I think), and does not know any of these "wordly" people that are coming over. Besides all of this...I'm DISFELLOWSHIPPED...she's not supposed to be talking to me. Yet, she wants me to invite her into my home with a crowd of wordly people....the same "friend" who would shun me if I showed up at the Kingdom Hall.
I don't get it....I wanted to say "so what is it, are you shunning me or not?!!". Instead, I just politely let my mom know that this "friend" was not welcome in our home.
Strange isn't it?!
a very touching book - by jan hindman.
if you have little ones i would highly recommend this book.
i purchased it last month for my daughter and it talks about good touching, bad touching, and secret touching.
A Very Touching Book - by Jan Hindman. If you have little ones I would highly recommend this book. I purchased it last month for my daughter and it talks about good touching, bad touching, and secret touching. It's written to their level but very detailed also so kids can understand exactly WHAT we're talking about (since us adults are sometimes a little shy about specifics). Anyways - just thought I'd share!
... i've asked this to other active jw's who post on the forum, and i never get a response worth listening to... so here goes, try number 1 million.
if you're so faithful to your organization, why.
posting.
Naru - I know it can really get to you when you're already angry about the situation. There will come a day when you can laugh at it - blow it off - and hold a small amount of hope that they might actually read through some of the other posts and see the light. If not - well...that's their life.
WE ARE FREE!!!
last night was the first meeting of the circuit overseers visit.
i didnt go, but i know (because of a call from an elder about two weeks ago) that they are going to visit me this week.
ahh!!
Theocrat - you're a riot!
Look at yourselves...you're lives are crap
I hate to be rude - but I do need to point out that you are making a rather general judgment of individuals to whom you do not know. Romans 14:4 "Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand for the Lord is able to make him stand". It is up to the Lord Jesus, not us and our works for salvation - Read Galations chapter 3, it is very clear that salvation is a gift through grace and belief in Jesus. "Works" are a fruit that occurs naturally once a person has accepted Jesus as their savior - but it is not the works that saves a person.
Now - back to your statement that our lives are crap - Since you have made this broad generalization which would by default include me, let me tell you a bit about my life. I am married with 2 kids, my husband and I both have successful careers, our kids have never been in any trouble, get good grades in school, and add a huge amount of joy to our lives. I am a born again Christian, I spend many hours working with our church youth group and community outreach programs. We also contribute quite a bit of time and money to charities - I tend to favor those that help kids as that's my soft spot. My husband and I sponsor a little girl in Africa named Dolas, in fact, she is one of many children being sponsored by our Church. The church has taken on an entire African village - as a church we are providing $$ to pay for schools, medical care, training teachers and pastors, digging a well for fresh water, and even built some new homes for the villagers. I study my bible regularly, pray daily to God and have been blessed by him tremendously. I ask for his guidance in many aspects of my life. So Theocrat - exactly what part of my life is crap?
this past week i met an old friend for coffee - she's a x-jw also but still in the trap of thinking they are the "truth" - in fact, she's trying to get reinstated, but that's another topic i'll leave for another time.. as we were having coffee 2 car groups of jw's came in for their service break.
her reaction was obvious to me that she felt uncomfortable with them there.
as i was noticing her reaction i thought of the stages i have gone through since i was df'd.. at first i was embarassed and ashamed when i would run into jw's somewhere.
Anything that was especially helpful to you?
I had to talk positively in my head to myself - for example, when I would be in the grocery store and would see the JW's in the next isle I would say in my head "you belong here, you have a right to be here, you do not have to hide, you are a success" - sounds funny, but it does help. I had to learn how to treat myself kindly and love myself - and the first steps were saying things like this in my head.
After I started feeling more confident, then I would purposely go down the same isle they were in or get in line at the grocery store directly behind them. It was a way of confronting my fears and forcing myself to stand up to them - a way to confirm that I was worthy.
this past week i met an old friend for coffee - she's a x-jw also but still in the trap of thinking they are the "truth" - in fact, she's trying to get reinstated, but that's another topic i'll leave for another time.. as we were having coffee 2 car groups of jw's came in for their service break.
her reaction was obvious to me that she felt uncomfortable with them there.
as i was noticing her reaction i thought of the stages i have gone through since i was df'd.. at first i was embarassed and ashamed when i would run into jw's somewhere.
At first I thought you were talking about driving over them in the street or something ... but wouldn't the bookbags leave a big dent in your grill?
LMAO .... Dan-O, you are naughty!!
codeblue's thread about the teenage years made me start thinking about another aspect of being raised jw.
in the org we had ready made "friends" by virtue of our affiliation.
i found that after leaving jw's it was hard to meet people and it took me a long time to make friends.
Special K - I completely relate to your post! Most of my friendships also revovle around my kids and their sports/extra-curricular/school activities. And I have found that I also am bad at maintaining those friendships.
It is so comforting to find posts like this from others that are going through the same stage as I - makes me feel like I'm not alone. Thanks for sharing!
since leaving the borg just over two years ago, as a young man in his early-mid twenties, i realise now for the first time in my life i'm not worried about the future... .
while in the organisation i constantly worried about my life, it's direction, and the coming apocalypse (and how i would fare).
would i have enough time to get the things done i wanted to do?
Welcome bandersnatch!
I enjoyed your post. I don't worry about the future anymore either - instead, I plan for it. I plan on growing old in this "old system of things" - plan on seeing my children marry, having grandchildren, having great-grand children, retiring with my hubby and spending more time traveling and enjoying sunrise and sunsets - perhaps I will still be here when the first man walks on Mars, when a cure is found to cancer and AIDS.
I don't fear the future any more - I look forward to it. I think there are a lot of wonderful things waiting for us there.
new castles recently posted a topic asking if there were any specific comments people made that caused us to question or leave the orgnaization.
this caused me to remember one particiular incident and was wondering if anyone else experienced anything similar.
our service overseer came to our bookstudy and did his routine talk on, "you're not doing enough", "what you are doing isn't quality", "do more, more, more" in the field service.
This is the same elder who later stated during a public talk, "When armageddon comes, all I can say is God help those of us who are not putting in at least 10 hours per month".
So how would this elder reply to Galations 3:3? " Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort? "