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Sept 11th Tribute - slideshow

by Dawn in

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our church put together an awesome video as a tribute/memorial for sept. 11th.

it's put to the music from james taylor's "fire & rain".

we recreated it here as an educational project for my son - thought i'd share it with you also.

Our church put together an awesome video as a tribute/memorial for Sept. 11th. It's put to the music from James Taylor's "Fire & Rain". We recreated it here as an educational project for my son - thought I'd share it with you also. I couldn't put the music up because of bandwidth but the lyrics are posted with each photo.

The slideshow runs by itself on a 5 second delay for each slide.

http://www.moparsunlimited.netfirms.com/september/sld001.html

Edited to fix link

Edited by - Dawn on 9 September 2002 13:33:5

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DID YOU ENJOY SHERHERDING CALLS?

by minimus in

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elders are supposed to be loving, caring shepherds.

when a problem arises, elders are supposed to be there.

visiting in homes was something the organization always stressed.

Dawn

Larc - I LOVE IT!! You are so funny. I wish I could have been there to see that one!!

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September 11

by ScoobySnax in

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its almost a year now since the horrific attacks on the wtc, everytime i see those news clips of planes smashing in to the trade centre towers i feel sick to my stomach.

to see innocent people jumping from windows to certain death and the courage of police firefighters and innocent people caught up in this horror truly humbles me as a jw.

its a terrible world we live in, and though my beliefs about the solution to this differ from most on this board, i sure you like me will take a few minutes out this wednesday 11 to remember so many good people who lost their lives, and those that gave theirs, unselfishly trying to help others.

Dawn

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September 11

by ScoobySnax in

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its almost a year now since the horrific attacks on the wtc, everytime i see those news clips of planes smashing in to the trade centre towers i feel sick to my stomach.

to see innocent people jumping from windows to certain death and the courage of police firefighters and innocent people caught up in this horror truly humbles me as a jw.

its a terrible world we live in, and though my beliefs about the solution to this differ from most on this board, i sure you like me will take a few minutes out this wednesday 11 to remember so many good people who lost their lives, and those that gave theirs, unselfishly trying to help others.

Dawn

Scooby:

I appreciate your post - it is nice to hear from a JW who appreciates the sacrifices made and lives lost - I found your comments very refreshing.

I was so frustrated with my JW family last year - as they spoke about the Sept. 11th all they talked about were the witnesses that lost lives - or the witnesses that seen it from the Bethel buildings, or the witnesses who (on and on and on) - only when I reminded them of the non-witness individuals such as firemen, policemen, and other victims who risked their lives to save others, and those innocent ones that died simply for showing up for work - only then did they throw me a "oh yea - it's terrible - but that's the time we're living in, this is Satan's world" yadda yadda yadda.

My family plans to remember those by flying our flag all week - and lighting candles on our street on the 11th.

However - I do find a two positive things from the tragedy:

(1) We, as a nation, came together in support of one another. I had NEVER seen such compassion and commitment from people here before.

(2) Our nation has become much more aware of God. Prayer vigils were quite common after the tragedy and are advertised all over as an upcoming rememberance. There is a new respect for those who seek a relationship with God.

Scooby - thanks again for your post - hope you keep posting here.

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Kids, Microchips and Democracy.

by Englishman in

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it seems many parents in the uk are looking into the possibilty of having their children "chipped" with a hidden implant so's they can be traced should they be abducted.

this follows in the wake of the horrific double murder of holly and jessica, the 2 cambridgeshire girls who were brutally killed a few weeks ago.. the saudi ambassador to great britain, ghazi algosaibi, said: "if you had a democracy in britain, you would have the death penalty tomorrow, especially after the death of those two girls".. maybe he has a point.. englishman.

Dawn

Hi Crystal:

I don't believe that a chip for the purpose of finding an abducted child really fits the definition of the "mark of the wild beast". It's just an advanced version of an ID bracelet.

It's clear in Revelation that the "mark" is one that goes hand-in-hand with worship of the beast - it is also a large player in financial matters (buying & selling). There's been a lot of speculation about what the "mark" is - some believe it's the American doller, others think it's the UPC codes on products. Personally - I don't think it will be that suttle - it will be clear to Christians when it shows up.

As for the chip thing - I'm a Christian and don't have a problem "biblical wise" with the chip - but I probably wouldn't put one into my kids until it had been tested a long time for health side effects.

The best defense is a good offense - know where your kids are all all times (those little ones anyways). I see so many little ones running around stores - no parents in sight - or playing at the park and their parents are hundreds of yards away with their back turned engaged in conversation with other adults. I live by a gradeschool and we have been notified that a sex offender lives in our area. Yet I see little ones (kindergarden & first grade) walking to school by themselves - THAT scares me!!

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JW can refuse DNA test

by Crystal in

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a friend of mine told me she saw on "law and order" (television program) that a jehovah witness refused a dna test.he was accused of rape.the court said that since it was against his religion that they could not test him.have any of you ever heard of this?

?

Dawn

They can refuse a DNA test - however, the court can ORDER it done and then it's out of the person's hands. They must provide the DNA sample, or be arrested in which case the sample is then taken in jail.

I work in the legal field and we actually had a case similar to this (drunk driving - not rape). Our Prosecutor asked me if JW's really don't give blood - I laughed so hard - I guess it's ok to drive drunk but DON'T YOU DARE give your blood for a blood test. I set him straight that giving blood for medical & testing purposes is NOT against the religion and offered to provide proof from their literature. Fortunately it didn't get that far - the Judge saw right through his lame excuse and charged him with a DWI.

We had another case of a newborn baby that needed blood. The JW parents refused - we took it to court for a court order and won. I guess our judges here aren't much of JW fans

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Upcoming Holidays- Celebrating in Secret

by Vitameatavegamin in

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with autumn in the air, my thoughts start turning to the holidays ahead.

are any of you doing christmas or thanksgiving?.

i do, but i have to be so careful, incase any jw family would happen to drop by.

Dawn

I wanted to celebrate soooo bad - was raised a JW and never got to participate. But I was afriad of the backlash from my parents even after I was DF'd.

When I met my husband I blamed it on him.....he's worldy you know (ha ha ha).

It's been a number of years now and my mom's gotten over it. She even calls to see how the kids enjoyed their holidays and what they got for Christmas. Last year she came over and complimented me on the decorations and the tree. I think that deep down she wishes she could still celebrate - I know she had a lot of happy memories surrounding the holidays.

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Legal question

by kenpodragon in

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i work in a business that sometimes has teenagers purchasing or renting items from us.

when they do so, we have to have a parent or legal guardian make the arrangements or sign any binding agreements.

if we didn't, nothing would be worth the paper it was written on, as people under 18 can not enter into a legal arrangement on their own.. .

Dawn

I was baptised at 13. I just don't see this changing.....they can agree that it's not a legally binding thing but you'll still get "shunned" (disassociated or marked) if you leave so what's the difference?

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To Marilyn

by Dawn in

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a while back (a few months ago) i posted a plea for help regarding my marriage.

you had given me what i believe is the best advice i've ever had.

you said, quite bluntly, that my marriage had come to this state because i had allowed it to......i was allowing my husband to control me.

Dawn

Hi Marilyn/Mulan:

A while back (a few months ago) I posted a plea for help regarding my marriage. You had given me what I believe is the BEST advice I've ever had. You said, quite bluntly, that my marriage had come to this state because I HAD ALLOWED IT TO......I was allowing my husband to control me. Noone ever told me that before and it never dawned on me. I just wanted to let you know how much help that was.

I thought about it a lot. Last month I confronted my husband with divorce papers - I told him that either (1) we went to counseling and things were going to change, or (2) I was filing. Either way, I would be better off in the long run, I could not live with this any longer.

Well guess what....Mr. Know it all who swore he had no problems and would NEVER see a counselor because it was only for loosers decided on the counseling.

It's been one month now in counseling. We have a LONG WAY to go - but it's already progressed so much that I am in complete shock. We have learned so much from the counselor and I believe we'll make it through. We've committted to a minimum of 6 months counseling before we make any decisions (ie: divorce) - there's a lot to work out and it has been sooooooo hard and tiring, but I can see progress and am feeling very positive. Either way - the truth is I'll be better off - either we'll have a better marriage or I'll be out of it and free. Either way is better than what I was living with.

I just wanted you to know that your advice really helped me out. Thank you for being so honest!!

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Dog bites minister, is spared death sentence

by ashitaka in

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dog bites minister, is spared death sentence.

canadian press.

winnipeg a dog that bit a jehovah's witness minister after she ignored beware of dog signs has been spared a death sentence by a winnipeg court.. piotr skawinski, the dog's owner, testified he had two visible warning signs up the day that ethel mannetje walked into his back yard.. he also said his six-year-old labrador-german shepherd cross named boss has never bitten anyone before and is good with children.. "for the court to put my dog to sleep because he was in his own boundaries and somebody stepped into it, not paying attention, i think that's just bad," mr. skawinski said.. "for a lady that's been going door to door for i don't know how many years and still hasn't learned to look for a beware of dog sign i don't know what the lady was thinking.".

Dawn

songmistress:

Only a JW would appreciate the humor behind moving comas around

Is it ", today" or "today, " ??