Ah, I didn't understand that the loan was made by the WTS. I was wondering if the congregation had a loan from someone else and didn't pay it, whether they would be able to sue the WTS (the parent organization) for it. Or would the local congregation have the full responsibility? It seems to me that this can't be the case, if they maintain the benefits of being able to sell the hall and to get some money for it they must also have the responsibilty of paying for it.
stapler99
JoinedPosts by stapler99
-
80
Is the WTBTS having cash flow problems?
by JW GoneBad ini was at a 2 day circuit assembly this weekend and i was surprised at how many times mention was made directly or indirectly reminding those in attendance (1,600) of the need to give $$$.
even in the soliloquies or skits they seemed to work in the need to give $$$.. it made me wonder if the society is having 'cash flow' problems and hence is desparate for cash.
over the years that i've attended conventions and assemblies the need to give $$$ has been subtle (imo), til now.
-
-
-
80
Is the WTBTS having cash flow problems?
by JW GoneBad ini was at a 2 day circuit assembly this weekend and i was surprised at how many times mention was made directly or indirectly reminding those in attendance (1,600) of the need to give $$$.
even in the soliloquies or skits they seemed to work in the need to give $$$.. it made me wonder if the society is having 'cash flow' problems and hence is desparate for cash.
over the years that i've attended conventions and assemblies the need to give $$$ has been subtle (imo), til now.
-
-
stapler99
If the congregation didn't pay the mortgage on the hall, do you know if it would be the local congregation or the WTS who would be liable?
-
80
Is the WTBTS having cash flow problems?
by JW GoneBad ini was at a 2 day circuit assembly this weekend and i was surprised at how many times mention was made directly or indirectly reminding those in attendance (1,600) of the need to give $$$.
even in the soliloquies or skits they seemed to work in the need to give $$$.. it made me wonder if the society is having 'cash flow' problems and hence is desparate for cash.
over the years that i've attended conventions and assemblies the need to give $$$ has been subtle (imo), til now.
-
-
stapler99
Botzwana, I reckon that goes to show that you shouldn't make conditional donations to an organization you are unwilling to sue. Suing the local congregation would probably result in instant disfellowshipping, I expect.
-
23
No Blood Card: Counter document to file for your child
by alamb inplease find below a basic form that can be modified for your particular circumstance.
this should be filed with schools, attorneys, doctors, hospitals, etc.
as a counter to the no blood card.. .
-
-
stapler99
Good idea. Do you know what legal force it has?
-
15
I was forwarded an email about Jack Barr's passing away
by jj123jj123 inhas anyone else seen this email?
i thought i would pass it along.... .
dear friends, .
-
-
stapler99
It's interesting to see the "overlapping generation" principle being applied directly to the current Governing Body, as opposed to the anointed remnant as a whole. Do they really believe that people will think that we must be very close to the end because the current Governing Body has a time limit on it? What exactly are they contemperanous with - not 1914, not 1935, no, some other point where there was overlapping.
This idea is ridiculous and I wouldn't be suprised to see it silently dropped.
-
9
JW's are more obsessed with sex than most people
by jambon1 inalways found this bizarre.. they have printed boundless amounts of information about this matter.
they discuss sex and it's details in front of infants & young children (surely a criminal offense, no?
), they gossip about who has been doing it with who when someone has fallen into the trap of the 'sins of the flesh.'.
-
-
stapler99
Absolutely. I was terrified to even speak with attractive women and felt it was sinful. I would view a lot of joking about romantic relationships among JW's as hypocritical and sinful.
-
67
Your worst field service experience.
by littlebird inmy worst field service experience was this.. i didn't have a car at the time and so a pioneer sister was picking me up of service every couple of days.
she was my partner and i got a door where the woman was clearly not interested.
as i am stepping away the pioneer sister starts in with all the objection stoppers.
-
-
stapler99
I don't seem to have many memories of field service, which is surprising. This is probably because it was so repetitive.
Old people with bad teeth and houses that stank of stale beef.
Mostly though it was the apathy. People weren't interested.
Being a child and your presentation being interrupted by the adult you are with.
-
24
The GOVERNING BODY doesn't make the polices.......
by Terry inoddly enough....the governing body don't make the policies; the policies make the governing body!.
think of it this way.... the economy is every transaction, asset and liability within our country which is inside a greater context of the world markets.. each family has their little piece of the greater pie: debts, savings, purchases, credit-you name it.. but--get this--nobody is in charge of the economy.
nobody runs it.
-
-
stapler99
I think you're on the ball, Terry. Systems should be viewed as interconnected wholes, and it's not necessary for the parts of the system to understand it.
In fact, those /outside/ the system may have a better understanding of it. We have no need of God's spirit or divinely revealed truth to ask how it works. Instead we are free to ask, what is it about certain doctrines and features of the organization that explains why it exists, the mentality of its members, and so on.
-
-
-
stapler99
1914 is a year they can't get away from. On the other hand, 1935 seems to be completely out the window now.
The idea that many have of an elderly, anointed remnant is at risk.
I don't believe there will be a tightening up. In fact they may now be moribund, with no strong leadership or sense of direction.
-
15
What proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses will make a convert in their lifetime?
by stapler99 inin another thread it was being discussed how inefficient the door-to-door preaching is, and i thought this raised an interesting question - what proportion of jehovah's witnesses will make a convert in their lifetime?.
in my experience, i can think of two or three people that my parents have studied with and who were later baptized.
but i know of so few baptisms that it is hard for me to think about it.
-
-
stapler99
In another thread it was being discussed how inefficient the door-to-door preaching is, and I thought this raised an interesting question - what proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses will make a convert in their lifetime?
In my experience, I can think of two or three people that my parents have studied with and who were later baptized. But I know of so few baptisms that it is hard for me to think about it. I think the number must be quite small, at least less than a half.