There is a thread on the site which has a link to download a copy as well.
insearchoftruth
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Any Help Appreciated..
by str8?so is spaghetti..until you heat it up incan anyone provide pdfs of the chapters in the new young people ask (volume 2) that relate directly to homosexuality or the society's sex guidelines?
i am hoping to use them in the book i am writing (now have three australian publishers that have accepted the book as a submission and have been advised that once the book is finished at least one will definitely make an offer to publish).
yay to exposes of evil cults!
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End Times Preaching and Armageddon - has the WTS made a new push on this?
by insearchoftruth inmy wife has been an on again, off again sympathizer of the jws.
she recieved a phone call this past weekend from a sister who had attempted to study with her in the past and all of a sudden she is reading all the wts literature she can on the meaning of armageddon and the topic of paradise earth.
has the wts started a new push on this topic as of late??
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Very interesting, up until about four years ago all I knew about the JWs was they were nicely dressed people who peddled magazines written at about a sixth grade reading level from door to door, what is amazing is how they have been able to turn this into a very profitable venture with amazingly huge land holdings with all volunteer labor. I used to deliver newspapers as a kid and only made a few pennies per paper, but if one delivers enough, there was a pretty good take at the end of the day, now imagine 6 million folks paying for the papers up front, and then turning in what ever profits they recieve from selling them, now that is a formula for some huge profits.
I really does seem like the same old stuff, just in new packaging, and yes, we are in an economic downturn that just happens to coincide with some other things going on in the world that makes one looking for the end see some 'favorable signs' that the end is near.
Need to brush up on some of the other organizations that are also escatalogically centered so I will be able to dispel the thoughts of how unique she thinks they are....also have asked her what she knows about the history of the organization, where it got its start, was it a spin off of another religion and what other significant things have shaped the faith, no answer and I am wondering if she will take the time to try to find out, or if she will ask the pesky sister. My wife kept talking about 'paradise earth' and why would god have created earth if he did not mean for it to be inhabited.....I asked her to read the 'armegeddon account' in Revelations 20 and the first few verses of chapter 21 and tell me what it means...without the assistance of WT literature, I have found out that she has never just read the bible, she has always allowed the bible verse bingo/proof texting of the WTS to shape her view on what the bible says.....
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How much would you pay for fuel if.............
by Lady Zombie in.
hypothetically~.
how much would you be willing to spend on fuel if you knew that the high cost would definitely contribute to the fall of the wtbts, or at the very least, put a stop to field service?.
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insearchoftruth
most likely not far enough away!
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End Times Preaching and Armageddon - has the WTS made a new push on this?
by insearchoftruth inmy wife has been an on again, off again sympathizer of the jws.
she recieved a phone call this past weekend from a sister who had attempted to study with her in the past and all of a sudden she is reading all the wts literature she can on the meaning of armageddon and the topic of paradise earth.
has the wts started a new push on this topic as of late??
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Very interesting point you make Gary, she has also gotten herself involved with an MLM scheme as well.....same sort of thinking, and gullibility is necessary for both of them. One thing that is somewhat in my favor is she normally is not willing to put in the effort that a lot of these things take, and an 'at home "bible" study' may go for a bit, even a meeting attended for a while, but when it gets to be more time consuming, she will fade back again.....but she may also like the fact that I will not be involved with the JWs, gives her a haven away from me!
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So.....Are Jehovah's Witnesses A "Cult"?
by minimus inwhen i first joined this board, i felt they had "cultish" aspects but would not go to the point of saying the "c" word.. now, i unequivocally say that jws are a cult!.
what do you think??
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To me there is a lot of WTS behavior that is cultic in nature, time control, belief control and due to the both of these, mind control. Another concern is the belief that 'only we have the truth', and then the abilty, or should I say, power, to modify this truth almost at will and raise no major questions at all. I am still in awe at the generation change that was announced last year as almost an 'oh by the way' in the questions from readers, how such a fundamental change that causes pretty large changes in the direction and interpretation of the organization was so casually announced. By seeing how the followers accept these changes without question shows me what mind control they have.....so I guess in my opinion, if not full blown cult, right on the fringes.
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End Times Preaching and Armageddon - has the WTS made a new push on this?
by insearchoftruth inmy wife has been an on again, off again sympathizer of the jws.
she recieved a phone call this past weekend from a sister who had attempted to study with her in the past and all of a sudden she is reading all the wts literature she can on the meaning of armageddon and the topic of paradise earth.
has the wts started a new push on this topic as of late??
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Not only 'bunches the undies' but rallies the troops as 'signs of the end'. But don't even try to point out the cyclic nature of history! I have always noted this behavior in my wife and her family, I know that 'dirty laundry' is what sells on the news, but she only focuses on the bad things going on in the world. She was really intrigued by the earthquake in China as well as the typhoon in Myanmar, which are both horrific tragedies, but when I tried to show her the attempted response in Myanmar as well as the international response of assistance in China, she can not see the underlying good of people. What is so confusing/perplexing is she is starting to talk armageddon quite a bit, but she is looking forward to college graduation soon and is also interested in pursuing an advanced degree. Until this past week it seemed like she had left the watchtower behind. Her parents (who are fully responsible for dragging her into this mess) are disfellowshipped due to infidelity and though her father is trying to get himself back in good graces, from what I understand her mother has no remorse at all and in essence seems to feel that this extramarital affair is almost owed to her. I guess bad economic times and the efficiency of the international news to bring bad news to people so efficiently could definitely be a strong contributing factor.
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Potential Changes at Bethel...
by TheListener ini posted this on another thread but it really got me thinking about how the wts could really do this:.
the wts needs to stop spending so much cash.. they have real estate but once sold and the proceeds used it offers no more value.. they need to simplify, simplify, simplify (and isn't that the mantra they recite each time they make an organizational change?).
they could: push more and more printing to the individual publishers in order to cut down on printing costs (this may only apply to developed countries but it still would result in significant savings).
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With the use of the internet, there are a lot of opportunities for folks to 'work from home', whether that home be a persons house or even a section of a kingdom hall. This would allow for a huge reduction in the overhead costs, especially associated with the facilities in Brooklyn.
Local printing is also quite an interesting concept, though the per unit cost would go up due to the cost of ink being higher in a small printer, one would be able to print tracts on demand, reducing excess items being printed. Two other huge benefits are reduced transportation costs (let the wires do the shipping, not trucks) and also pushing the costs out to the field, rather than centralized at hq.
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End Times Preaching and Armageddon - has the WTS made a new push on this?
by insearchoftruth inmy wife has been an on again, off again sympathizer of the jws.
she recieved a phone call this past weekend from a sister who had attempted to study with her in the past and all of a sudden she is reading all the wts literature she can on the meaning of armageddon and the topic of paradise earth.
has the wts started a new push on this topic as of late??
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And out popped a wt, or was it an awake?
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Update about Ray and Cynthia Franz, by Request!!!
by tooktheredpill inguys:.
as i mentioned in a past thread, (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/161647/1.ashx), i met ray and cynthia during the weekend!
i went to their home with my wife.
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Thanks for the update, it must have been an amazing experience to be able to talk with these two folks who from what I have read are full of grace...I hold them both in my prayers
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Serena Williams and her "god jehovah"
by worf inafter losing the wimbledon championship to her sister venus, serena williams was being interviewed on the court yesterday, and here is part of what she said: "i thank my god jehovah for being out here".. okay, so according to her words, jehovah blessed her by allowing her to be there to participate in a competitive sports championship match.
and not just any match.
wimbledon!
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The double standard applied to these talented ladies is quite amazing, but I guess double standards are everywhere. I wonder what would happen if someone showed up for a meeting wearing aneres clothing, the design label of Serena.....