The whole witness outlook on life, including friends, acquaintances & family is entirely based on conditions.
jambon1
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Apologizing to my non-JW friends
by pale.emperor inyesterday i bumped into an old friend from my last workplace.
he's a gay man and we were good friends along with a woman from the same office.
although i was a jw at the time, i would go for the occasional after work drinks with them, blackpool funfair every year and the occasional cinema or theater.
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I need more faith so I've been told
by hoser ini attended the circus assembly last weekend and i have come to the conclusion i am lacking faith.
the opening talk on the program, the very first words that came out of the speakers mouth told me so.
he said most of us here are lacking faith even though we might not know it.
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jambon1
They always were accusing in the tone of their talks at assemblies. You always came away feeling like you'd had your jimmy whipped.Never encouraging, always do more, do more. Nothing is ever good enough - as seen by the pioneer couple in the convention videos who were living 'a comfortable life'.
What? A comfortable life? Well no, you can't be doing that. Even on the back of 70 free hours per month.
A bunch of guilt tripping freak shows. How they can bear it year upon year, upon year, I'll never know.
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If anyone claimed that god speaks to them personally.....
by jambon1 inthey'd be viewed as completely mentally ill and laughed at.. so, how do the governing body get away with it?.
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And how did it come to be that guys in their fifties could be GB members in 2016?
Absolutely laughable and would've been considered apostasy back when I was a new JW in the late 90's.
Remarkable levels of revisionism.
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If anyone claimed that god speaks to them personally.....
by jambon1 inthey'd be viewed as completely mentally ill and laughed at.. so, how do the governing body get away with it?.
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jambon1
They'd be viewed as completely mentally ill and laughed at.
So, how do the governing body get away with it?
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Anthony Morris III Autobiography ... The Real Truth
by Wild_Thing inthe watchtower published anthony morris iii's autobiography last year ... "remembering my first love has helped me to endure" by anthony morris iii.
i absolutely cannot believe how quickly he became a jehovah's witness.
in the span of less than a year, he attended his first meeting, studied, got baptized, became a pioneer, and married a jw girl.
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jambon1
He's mentally ill and yet the JW's look up to him.
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Does it not dawn on the cart witnesses?
by jambon1 ini sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.
within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.
what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).
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jambon1
These posts are bringing back so many memories of the years and years of pointless, futile, mind numbing dullness that I lived through.
Why did I put myself through it?
It wasn't even as if the banter was all that good with the bro's etc out on the ministry. Aside from a few, they were all arseholes.
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Does it not dawn on the cart witnesses?
by jambon1 ini sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.
within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.
what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).
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jambon1
Oh.
Well, I neve realised only SPECIAL witnesses get to do it. I thought it was open to everyone.
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Does it not dawn on the cart witnesses?
by jambon1 ini sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.
within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.
what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).
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jambon1
I sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub. Within minutes I realised that I had a perfect view of a JW cart and the two ridiculously dressed JW's (they have absolutely no individuality at all. What's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral)
Anyway, as I enjoyed the company and the drinks, I kept my eye on the cart. Three hours I sat in that window. My observation?
Not one! Not one person stopped to so much as glance at the cart.
Now, I realise that they probably do get the odd person to talk to, but what an utterly ridiculous waste of time/life.
But it got me thinking; do they never stop to think what a waste of THEIR OWN time this whole charade is? It's completely pointless and worthless work. No one is being warned, the world isn't being 'put on notice'. NO-ONE CARES!
How are they spinning this activity at the hall? How are they actually getting people to stand like mindless drones whilst being completely ignored by the general public?
Baffling.
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Edinburgh Business Trip
by azor ini'm traveling to edinburgh in october.
i'm from southern california and i was hoping i could meet some on this board that are near that area for lunch or an early dinner.
please pm me if you would like to have a little apostate gathering there?
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jambon1
Everyone wants to have Scottish roots.
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Orange hard hat for boss, white hard hats for workers
by hoser inthe latest study watchtower december 2016 study article by undeserved kindness you were set free has a picture at paragraph 19 of some construction workers.
i always thought the foreman wore a white hard hat.
besides that i hate the term undeserved kindness.
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jambon1
^ truth be known
Exactly how I feel.
I wrote this about it a few years ago:
The wages sin pays is death
The notion of being a sinner is one that I struggle with. Religion plays its trump card in this area. Getting people to accept that they are somehow guilty of something they have absolutely no control over is, quite frankly, astonishing. Furthermore, that you deserve eternal punishment for this thing that you have no control over is also quite something.
The acceptance that you are a sinner puts religion in control from the outset. Accepting this ideology means that you now have to find a way out. A way to ‘atone’ for your inherent sin. This is where religion comes in. Your way out of sin is to practise or exercise faith in the particular religion which has convinced you that you are a sinner in the first place. But the modern day manner of exercising faith is fairly easy, by comparison. What do I mean? Well, the bible goes on at length about what gods people had to do thousands of years ago to atone for their sin. Animal sacrifice was a massive part of it. This costly and inhumane manner of worship apparently made the people constantly aware of their need to atone for their sin.
And that's just it for me. That's where religion has you right where they want you. The need for repentance and atonement puts religion at the forefront of your mind, day after day. In the case of Jehovah’s witnesses, you are duty bound to perform as many ‘fine works’ as you can. Preaching, teaching, going to meetings and assemblies are all ways in which you exercise faith in Jesus sacrifice. Yes, by convincing you that you are a sinner, the religion conveniently fills the gap that is required to ensure your salvation.
Previously, I referred to the scripture at Romans 5:12. This is used, along with the Genesis account, to explain why human beings grow old and die. But, it would strike me that animals also grow old and die. Yes, they die of the same or similar illnesses as humans. So, what is the reason for that? Or is it the case that cats and dogs just aren't intelligent enough to come up with a conscious explanation? What makes humans so special that we are to gain a way out of death and the animals aren't?
The blame apportioned to humans for their own death, which they have no control over is completely unjustified. To teach that a person is a sinner, despite having absolutely no control over it, yet again just doesn't make any sense to me. But the creation of the ideology as far as religion is concerned really does add up. It creates a reliance on something or someone else to ‘save’ a person – religious organisations and Jesus Christ.
Moving on from the idea of inherent sin is personally liberating. It removes any need for or reliance on a religion. It takes control away from religion entirely. It also creates a feeling of worthiness within a person. That you are worth something. That you are valuable. That you don't need or deserve to be subservient to an invisible God, simply to get by every day or to secure a future for yourself or your family. It empowers you to work out your own destiny, not waiting for someone else who is more powerful to do it for you.