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  I saw the Queen today - well sort of

  by Lady Lee in

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  my camera got to see her - the back of her.

  too many people for me to get through with the wheelchair.

  i stood up held my camera in the air and clicked in the direction i hoped she was in.

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  Princess Anne walked past me in a narrow street in Edinburgh once.

  She looks like a horse.
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  Has your " Self Esteem " Improved After Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses ?

  by flipper in

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  it seems to be an issue that some have after leaving the witness cult because none of us were ever made to feel we were " good " enough or "valued " enough for what we were trying to accomplish in the cult.

  growing up i had pounded into my head by my jw elder father what jesus said, " after doing all things remember you are good for nothing slaves , what we have done is what we ought to have done.

  " then i thought to myself - " where's the joy in that ?

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  Good topic.

  Yes, very much so.

  I viewed myself very negatively due to the constand bombardment of 'nothings ever good enough'. In actual fact, I was a very good dad with a decent honest business & a lovely wife. Lots of positive things in my life. Yet I was constantly down on myself & rather depressed.

  Very much changed days now though. The mental conditioning is gone forever. And I'll not let what happened to me happen to my children.
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  The Jehovahs Witness family weekend

  by jambon1 in

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  having been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a jw, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were jw's.. the weekends are vital for us just now.

  my wife doesn't work but i work full time from very early in the morning.

  i don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week.

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  jambon1

  I don't mean to be out of order here but can everyone just ignore the attention seeking poster and let the thread die.

  The on topic comments have been excellent. Thanks.
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  The Jehovahs Witness family weekend

  by jambon1 in

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  having been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a jw, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were jw's.. the weekends are vital for us just now.

  my wife doesn't work but i work full time from very early in the morning.

  i don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week.

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  Thanks for the input guys. I'm sure that many of us felt the same way when we were witnesses. If people like that sort of life then no doubt they will continue to be witnesses. I just detected that so many JW's were absolutely fed up individuals. Fed up of an extreemly taxing routine while at the same time being kicked in the balls every time you went to the meeting for not doing enough. Crazy.

  I encourage everyone to cherish their kids & spend as many fun times with them as possible. They're no kids for long!

  PS - Besty - HHGH
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  The Jehovahs Witness family weekend

  by jambon1 in

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  having been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a jw, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were jw's.. the weekends are vital for us just now.

  my wife doesn't work but i work full time from very early in the morning.

  i don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week.

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  I do try to give my children the happiest of memories.

  In no way is it easy. Everyone has it tough I believe. I have a million concerns for my kids & our future.

  But I'll tell you this; I'll make my kids childhood a childhood. They won't sit through degrading porno Watchtowers on a Sunday morning. They will have no worries about life or death. They won't worry about grandad or granny who isn't a JW. Or daddy who stopped coming to have his ass grilled at the kingdom hall.

  They will splash about on the beach. They will love going to the football & being with their grandad. I will love & kiss my kids no matter what they are or what they become.

  Please, for the love of god, let your kids be kids.
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  The Jehovahs Witness family weekend

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a jw, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were jw's.. the weekends are vital for us just now.

  my wife doesn't work but i work full time from very early in the morning.

  i don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week.

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  jambon1

  Having been out of the organisation for over 4 years and having finally released my kids from the hellish existance that is life as a JW, it struck me today how enjoyable our weekends are in comparison to when we were JW's.

  The weekends are vital for us just now. My wife doesn't work but I work full time from very early in the morning. I don't get to see my beutiful children in the morning during the week. When I get home I have a bit time to spend with my wife or doing other chores around the house & then the kids roll in from school. Homework, dinner, bath time, next days lunch making, grass cutting, plant watering, & it's bed time again.

  Friday-Sunday is such a welcome change from that. Don't get me wrong, I love my work & I love our Mon-Fri routine. But it is taxing. It's tiring.

  Friday is a fun day. We stay up late & have chocolate fondue. We lie in for a while on a Saturday and I enjoy morning cuddles from my wee kids. I cook breakfast & then we go out for the day which is lovely in this warm sunny Scottish weather . On a Saturday night I feel no pressure to be in bed early so we have some drinks & treat the kids to a late night & some TV.

  On a Sunday we have a nice relaxing day & we treat our kids if we can afford it. In the morning they like to watch cartoons.

  When we were witnesses, a Friday was so utterly depressing. Knowing that we would have to haul our ass around the doors with 2 small infants who were just wanting to run around mad but were trussed up in f***ing dresses & suits. At 3 years old! Even worse, you would have to validate your families spirituality by making sure that the kids would do a presentation or something at the arrangement. At 3 years old!

  The rest of the day was spent in the shadow of the upcoming early rise of Sunday morning to once again get trussed up like a turkey & head off to the Kingdom grill to have your sorry ass exposed as a shithouse of a christian who needed to do more, more, more! And hell mind you if the entire families Watchtowers hadn't been studied & marked up! Sitting all shy, not wanting to answer so that the microphone prince wouldn't see that you hadn't bothered your arse to study the healing words of mother!

  If you were a real sluggard then you would leave the hall without going out on 'the work' because your kids are tired already & also hungry. How you would punish yourself on the way home as a useless shithouse of a family head because you wanted to eat your lunch in relative freedom, outwith the judgemental eye of your fellow miserable sunday ministry arrangement-goers. Even worse you might want to spend the rest of sunday in some sort of sinful 'recreation' such as sandcastle making with your kids on the local beach.

  How times have changed for me. I love my weekends now & I truely make 'each day count'.

  I love my life now & I can clearly see that my kids are happy too.

  Jehovah's Witnesses deprive children of a proper childhood in my opinion. It's criminal.

  When your children are all grown up, that time is gone. Lost forever.

  Jehovah's Witnesses - Do you make 'each day count' for you and your family?
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  Audio: Generation teaching as explained at the San Diego District Convention 05-30-2010

  by kurtbethel in

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  this is an excerpt from the final talk of the day, "remain in the secret place of the most high".

  i looked around as this explanation was being offered up, and the looks on the faces of people there was mostly disinterest.

  this is a very convoluted explanation that reminds me of someone running a con and trying to cobble together an explanation to deal with legitimate objections to their false claims.. http://www.sendspace.com/file/dodp4w.

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  I've heard some amount of shit in my life, but this just about takes the biscuit.

  As I said on another thread, anyone who has half a brain can see that they have absolutely changed the meaning of how every living person understands the term 'generation'. It really is astounding.

  To be quite honest, if individual JW's cannot see that the society is taking the complete & utter piss, well, I guess they deserve each other.

  Shocking stuff really.
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  July 15th WT Study Article - Generation PR Fallout to Keep JW's Alert !

  by flipper in

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  after perusing through this article sent to us by our lurking jw friend- that's what i took away from this study article entitled " what jehovah's day will reveal " .

  this article was printed to keep jw's alert to the alleged urgency of the times - just in case some get puzzled by the new extended overlapping generation theory and lose their sense of urgency.

  i think the wt society is covering their backside here , doing possible damage control , and are very nervous about negative fallout in regards to how some jw's may respond to this extended " overlapping generation " theory being pushed.

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  Thanks for the bump. Missed this yesterday.

  I find it incredible that the WTS has the audacity to talk about 'worldy' people being willing to kill each other. Most 'worldly' people I know are repulsed by the idea of murder. The witnesses on the other hand have been drouling at the mouth for years at the prospect of 6 billion people being wiped out. Even publishing pictures of such things in books designed for children.
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  A Kind Word For Brits

  by metatron in

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  externally, we get a certain 'impression' of what living in england is like.

  every third baby boy is named mohammed.

  people who engage in self defense are imprisoned while criminals are given a 'firm talking to' and have their hands slapped.

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  I just had a million dollar idea...

  A beer can that has the scantily clad ladies but as the level of beer goes down, the clothes come down with it...

  Well, sine the Scots invented eveything else, they could probobly manage that.
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  Are people of the 'born-again' religion part of a cult like the JW's?

  by jambon1 in

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  i have a customer that is a born-again christian.

  i have to say that i always found these people terrible to deal with as a jw on the ministry.. obviously now i try to take the woman at face value in a non-judgemental way.. however, having had a few conversations with her i have to say that her outlook & general way of talking is remarkably like that of a jw.. she mentions things like punishment from god a lot.

  being victimised by others because she is a christian.

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  I have a customer that is a born-again christian. I have to say that I always found these people terrible to deal with as a JW on the ministry.

  Obviously now I try to take the woman at face value in a non-judgemental way.

  However, having had a few conversations with her I have to say that her outlook & general way of talking is remarkably like that of a JW.

  She mentions things like punishment from god a lot. Being victimised by others because she is a christian. Uses expressions like 'this world' as if she isn't a part of it. The devil is mentioned a lot. And sge even mentioned the old situation of not liking those in her congregation but having to 'see the good' in them.

  Her whole demenour is like that of a witness.

  So I ask:

  Are these people part of a central church/organisation that 'feeds' them with the same sort of bigoted nonsense that the WTS does?

  Or are there differances? If so, what?

  Thanks.

  J