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  Edinburgh Business Trip

  by azor in

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  i'm traveling to edinburgh in october.

  i'm from southern california and i was hoping i could meet some on this board that are near that area for lunch or an early dinner.

  please pm me if you would like to have a little apostate gathering there?

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  jambon1

  Everyone wants to have Scottish roots.

  
  
  
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  Orange hard hat for boss, white hard hats for workers

  by hoser in

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  the latest study watchtower december 2016 study article by undeserved kindness you were set free has a picture at paragraph 19 of some construction workers.

  i always thought the foreman wore a white hard hat.

  besides that i hate the term undeserved kindness.

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  ^ truth be known

  Exactly how I feel.

  I wrote this about it a few years ago:

  The wages sin pays is death

  The notion of being a sinner is one that I struggle with. Religion plays its trump card in this area. Getting people to accept that they are somehow guilty of something they have absolutely no control over is, quite frankly, astonishing. Furthermore, that you deserve eternal punishment for this thing that you have no control over is also quite something.

  The acceptance that you are a sinner puts religion in control from the outset. Accepting this ideology means that you now have to find a way out. A way to ‘atone’ for your inherent sin. This is where religion comes in. Your way out of sin is to practise or exercise faith in the particular religion which has convinced you that you are a sinner in the first place. But the modern day manner of exercising faith is fairly easy, by comparison. What do I mean? Well, the bible goes on at length about what gods people had to do thousands of years ago to atone for their sin. Animal sacrifice was a massive part of it. This costly and inhumane manner of worship apparently made the people constantly aware of their need to atone for their sin.

  And that's just it for me. That's where religion has you right where they want you. The need for repentance and atonement puts religion at the forefront of your mind, day after day. In the case of Jehovah’s witnesses, you are duty bound to perform as many ‘fine works’ as you can. Preaching, teaching, going to meetings and assemblies are all ways in which you exercise faith in Jesus sacrifice. Yes, by convincing you that you are a sinner, the religion conveniently fills the gap that is required to ensure your salvation.

  Previously, I referred to the scripture at Romans 5:12. This is used, along with the Genesis account, to explain why human beings grow old and die. But, it would strike me that animals also grow old and die. Yes, they die of the same or similar illnesses as humans. So, what is the reason for that? Or is it the case that cats and dogs just aren't intelligent enough to come up with a conscious explanation? What makes humans so special that we are to gain a way out of death and the animals aren't?

  The blame apportioned to humans for their own death, which they have no control over is completely unjustified. To teach that a person is a sinner, despite having absolutely no control over it, yet again just doesn't make any sense to me. But the creation of the ideology as far as religion is concerned really does add up. It creates a reliance on something or someone else to ‘save’ a person – religious organisations and Jesus Christ.

  Moving on from the idea of inherent sin is personally liberating. It removes any need for or reliance on a religion. It takes control away from religion entirely. It also creates a feeling of worthiness within a person. That you are worth something. That you are valuable. That you don't need or deserve to be subservient to an invisible God, simply to get by every day or to secure a future for yourself or your family. It empowers you to work out your own destiny, not waiting for someone else who is more powerful to do it for you.

  
  
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  Every time I see one of them loving their kids, I think....

  by jambon1 in

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  every time i see photos of new jw parents cuddling up to their new babies.. every time i see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.. every time i see them having fun with their children.. i think to myself; 'you would shun your kids' .

  if they don't end up being jw's.

  if they simply publicly declare that they don't believe.

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  I'd love to have seen some of the conversations that took place after the convention videos. Particularly the one where the parents cruelly refuse to even answer the phone to their daughter.

  Theres bound to have been kids or young adults who questioned their parents on why this is seen as acceptable parenting.
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  Every time I see one of them loving their kids, I think....

  by jambon1 in

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  every time i see photos of new jw parents cuddling up to their new babies.. every time i see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.. every time i see them having fun with their children.. i think to myself; 'you would shun your kids' .

  if they don't end up being jw's.

  if they simply publicly declare that they don't believe.

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  Every time I see photos of new JW parents cuddling up to their new babies.

  Every time I see people giving the parents new baby cards & gifts.

  Every time I see them having fun with their children.

  I think to myself; 'you would shun your kids'

  If they don't end up being JW's. If they simply publicly declare that they don't believe. If they change their minds once time passes and they change their minds like we have all changed our minds about different things.

  They'd cut them out of their lives.

  Jehovahs Witnesses are the only people alive who have children and say "I love you, but if you don't do this, that, or the other, I won't"

  Cruel.
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  Explaining JW Beleifs To Non JW's

  by pale.emperor in

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  my new girlfriend asked me over dinner last night what jw's believe.

  as i sat there explaining it i realized how ridiculous it sounds and was slightly embarrassed that i used to believe this crap for 31 years.. try and read this and imagine hearing it for the first time.... me: well... jw believe that god's name is jehovah and that his son is jesus christ.

  they believe that jesus died on a stake and not a cross and that in the year 1914 he personally chosen the jw's as his one true religion.

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  I genuinely feel embarrassed if I have to do this.

  It's as if it's a slight on your own intelligence.
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  Can someone help me

  by stephanie61092 in

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  a girl i've known my entire life who supported me from a distance after i was disfellowshipped sent me this message on instagram today: .

  let me know when your back... i'm unfollowing you on ig & snap.

  i love you.

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  jambon1

  Dump the bitch.

  Take control & move on.
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  Article in respected UK newspaper The Guardian - mishandling of sexual abuse

  by jambon1 in

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  one day, they are going to have to face the music here just like they did at the australian royal commission.. looking forward to they day immensely.

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  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  Darkspilver seems a bit of a wanker.
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  Article in respected UK newspaper The Guardian - mishandling of sexual abuse

  by jambon1 in

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  one day, they are going to have to face the music here just like they did at the australian royal commission.. looking forward to they day immensely.

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  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  jambon1

  Oops. Sorry, never realised it'd been posted.
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  Article in respected UK newspaper The Guardian - mishandling of sexual abuse

  by jambon1 in

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  one day, they are going to have to face the music here just like they did at the australian royal commission.. looking forward to they day immensely.

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  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  jambon1

  One day, they are going to have to face the music here just like they did at the Australian Royal Commission.

  Looking forward to they day immensely.

  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims
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  Thankfully not many publishers remind " me" of Troy.

  by The Rebel in

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  i took my son to the watford football club family day,-and the highlight- troy deeney.

  he stayed until every last item was signed and every selfie was taken.

  we left way after the end of the event and he left after us.

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  jambon1

  Was enthusiastic for a fair spell but never ever really believed that God would kill everyone.

  Not born in though which makes all the difference I think.