Sorry for the loss of your old friend.
But it is so nice that you were contacted and included in the event. I cannot count the number of times I've been told of someone's passing months AFTER they were gone. That is just compounded loss.
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Never say never
by zed is dead ini really thought that i would never go to another memorial service at a kingdom hall ever again.
i found out today that a man that i truly respected as a man passed away recently.
his daughter call me to let me know.. even though i haven't spoke to them in years, i still consider them family.
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Yesterday I met a poster from JWN
by crmsicl inabout 4 months ago i pm'd poster "emma" because i noticed she was from the same state i grew up in.
i told her about myself and where i grew up, i was not a jw growing up but she was.
as we communicated we eventually realized that we were from the same neck of the woods and then even from the same high school and graduating class.
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Several years ago poster 'outnfree' mentioned my family's name in one of her posts. My parents conducted a study with her sister back in the 70's. She and my mom (devout JW) were living in the same cong territory in a completely different state (35 years later.) I have not seen outnfree here on JWN for several years. I hope she is doing well.
Another JWN poster wrote something here that was a dead-giveaway to his former congregation. The same as mine in the 80's. We pm'd and are facebook friends, but, as yet, have not met up in person. I used to attend book study at his house and was friends with his now-ex-wife.
Yet another JWN poster found JWN because of a careless post I made in which I cited his real name in a public (not private) section. His name is not very common but he has become well-regarded in his field to the point where he was telling people to just google his name to find information about his business projects. Apparently some of his customers asked him if he was a JW. He said 'yes, how did you know that'? So he googled himself, clicked the link to my post on this site and eventually joined the site. We have caught up on each other's lives thru pm, email and some phone conversations. Have not caught up in person, but plan to. [And a mod graciously removed my careless, errant post. It eventually faded from the google hit list. And I have apologized to my friend for my careless error. I am usually so very cautious about other's anonimity, this was fluke. But an innocuous one with, I believe, I very good outcome.]
There are some others who have pm'd me that they know people from my old congs. And MANY others who I first met on JWN and *then* met in reallife.
I think it's fun. I hope to meet up with many more of my former JW friends. Soon.
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Funniest JW Video ever!!!
by bytheirworks inhave you ever seen something that so perfectly describes the situation facing all jw's??.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tzar4wrp40.
probe = new light (+ memory wipe).
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Marking to watch later.
Thanks!
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Boy is this young woman in for a surprise
by confusedandalone inhttp://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/why-a-former-model-is-covering-up-for-love-182140949.html.
this poor woman was a victoria secret model.
she gave it up to become a muslim.
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Women are treated with respect and they also respect themselves and their bodies. They don’t do one-night stands or casual flings.
A person does not need Islam - or any other religion - to behave this way. It's a personal decision for many people, both men and women.
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My doubting friend came by and left the letter...
by confusedandalone ini hope that i am not eating up alot of bandwidth and annoying anyone.
however as i make my exit i want to reveal as many things as possible.
i have a friend who had doubts about the latest change and wrote a letter.
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I have read alot of letters from 'branches' and from Brooklyn in response to individuals who had questions or needed help. I don't recall ever seeing such a detailed response to someone unless there was legal action or if someone was being outsted from the 'family'.
Amazing he got so much attention from someone there to actually bother with a reponse other than 'pray', 'more field service', 'discuss with your local elder body', 'new light', or 'wait on Jehovah'.
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Catchng up....
by obfuscatetheobvious inwife and girls are at the convention today.
hate this time of year.
while my wife tries to hide it, the inevitable post convention zeal pops it's head up.
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Condolences to you...
But we understand what you are going thru.
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Another story... possibly final story
by confusedandalone inthis is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.
it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.
i feel free today.
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love2bworldly wrote: always trying to control my non jdumb parents & "help" them and look like the wonderful daughter, while she bashed me and her other non Jdumb siblings & treated the rest of us like crap
I see this phenomenon with my sister (and similarly with my mom). She was overly involved with the care of the elderly mother of our uncle's wife. (the uncle, his wife or the elderly mother are all non-JWs.) She was an incredible help right up until the time the elderly woman died.
Yet during this entire time, she had very little to do with her siblings (me included) and would only speak with our father if/when he was in the hospital. Each time he was discharged, her calls and show of concern ceased.
In my opinion, it is because she (and other witnesses) feel a need to make a pretense of concern when it comes to their family. But the org messes with their 'natural affection'. The fact that we no longer believe the same - but we once *did* - puts her at odds with the org if she interacts kindly with family on a continuous basis. If she didn't call dad while he was in the hospital, it would have made her (and her religion) look bad because she would not have current update on dad when the non-jw family asked about him.
The non-JW extended family, as a consequence of the forced-distance with immediate family, get all the attention in an effort for the witness to prove to him/herself that they are not devoid of human compassion. They get to tell tales of caring for family members. They get the adulation of people without having to do the tough work of making nice with family members who - for better or worse - chose to think a little bit for themselves and, as adults, do not care to slave for a cult.
Plus the witness gets to count service time while helping non-jw family.
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Another story... possibly final story
by confusedandalone inthis is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.
it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.
i feel free today.
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Bailing the parents out of the debt hinders the emotional development of everyone involved.
As has been explained, the parents will not go to jail over the non-payment. They can make smaller payments to the companies and when the agency calls to make other arrangements, just tell them that they cannot afford to pay more than $xx.xx per month. There are provisions in place besides going to a family that someone considers 'dead'.
It might be too late for the parents to change their habits and learn to be more responsible. But those who learn of the situation may take note and learn a lesson.
But it just might help the 'spirit-minded' brother to reconsider his actions, think how his life will look 30 years from now, and make the necessary adjustments.
Noone benefits from Confusedandalone bailing out irresponsible people.
Take that $10k and create a fund to assist teenagers trying to escape and get an education. Offer a 'refund' on tuition upon successful completion of a semester. Or something like that. Something where the recipient has to first do something positive, then receive small increment of reward.
Just my thoughts on this scenario.
-Aude.
PS: "conshints" - that was pretty funny. Never seen that before. And the quote from the song... I caught that, too as I was reading it. That's not a scripture... It's an old song lyric!
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Another one...nine felony counts - Sun Valley, CA
by Dagney inhttp://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.
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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .
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truthseekeriam wrote: Looks like they are looking for more victims:(
According to the report on the news, the police *are* looking for more. The fact that none of the cong attendees will even make eye contact (probably at bequest of HQ) just makes them all look like they have something to hide.
While the individual members may not be guilty, certainly the organization does. Most of the members just don't know it yet. So there is an apparent transference of guilt.
It was a little surreal watching that piece last night.
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Another one...nine felony counts - Sun Valley, CA
by Dagney inhttp://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.
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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .
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This story lead the NBC 11 o'clock news tonight.
The reporter was at the KingdomHall wanting to interview members but not one person would make eye-contact with the reporter. The church next door, however, was more willing to make comment. Apparently the church does background checks on anyone who serves in a position at their place of worship.
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