Hip, Hip Hooray for Blondie,
If the WTS had someone like you working for them they wouldn't be so screwed up.
Brant
this angel has helped so many of us find information and contacts.
could you alone have found answers so quickly, or answers so accurate??.
this girl is a goddess.. are you sending her love now?.
Hip, Hip Hooray for Blondie,
If the WTS had someone like you working for them they wouldn't be so screwed up.
Brant
as another jwd poster pointed out, blondie (debbie harry) is a redhead.
so i updated my avatar.. .
i think i'm looking pretty good considering i'm not longer a young chick but a 60-year-old broad.. http://www.deborahharry.com/.
you women always get new hairdo's. Blondie, looks like you got remanufactured!
u
hi guys, im new here and im christian (though trying to read the bible for what it is instead of looking to preacher all the time.
) anyway, i have a dilemma.
im 26 right now.
CLOUD,
In my days as a JW Elder, I gave a talk a bunch of times that had some great Bible references to sinners that you might benefit from.
King Manasseh, killed his firstborn, killed prophets of Jehovah such as Isaiah, (had him stuffed in a hollow log and then had the log sawed in two.
King David, responsible for the death of 70,000 on one occasion of disobedience. Another time killed a man and took his wife.
King Solomon, made political alliances with the nations around him by marrying hundreds of women.
Lot, got drunk a few times and had his way with his daughters.
Peter, denied Christ.
Paul and Barnabas had a good fight.
On and On.
If you continue to feel so bad about your sins, which appear to be very minor, you need to do one of two things, 1. Develop faith in God and his loving Son, Christ Jesus and understand that he died for you, or 2. Go see a shrink.
Welcome to the board.
u
i've been feeling bad the last few days... like a bad cold.
*** cough - cough - sniff *** .
on thursday i went to my doctor and she ordered a ct scan of my sinuses.
Too much booze at the apostafest.
Hope you get well,
Brant
so i was invited to an assembly by my jw teacher .
i think i will be pretty bored and feel out of place.
it is a 3 day assembly this summer and the jw said they were to invite everyone (interested).
Oh yeah,
Ask her how many times she has acutally read the Bible through.--Cover to cover.
She will twist in the wind on that one, but if you pin her down, my bet is that she never has.
U
so i was invited to an assembly by my jw teacher .
i think i will be pretty bored and feel out of place.
it is a 3 day assembly this summer and the jw said they were to invite everyone (interested).
IFTNP--
If you are 17 and want to ruin your life, I would go with her. The assembly will be impressive, and look like it is a serious group of Bible loving people, but at heart, they aren't.
It is a dysfunctional mess. Ask your teacher about the WT teachings and conduct with the UN.
Ask your teacher about how much of your life will be fair game for the elders if you become one of them.
Ask your teacher how many of the young ones go to college.
Ask your teacher if the young ones are moral or if they get into quite a bit of trouble.
Ask your teacher what it means to live a double life.
Ask your teacher what Jesus really means to her. She won't be able to answer your without changing the subject to Jehovah, or his organization. She'll wind it up by telling you all about the 'faithful and discreet slave'.
Run like hell.
Uninformed
"deliverance at hand" is the theme for the jehovah's witnesses district convention may 26 to 28 at the resch center.
serving parts of wisconsin, michigan and the upper peninsula, the convention opens the season for district meetings throughout the united states.
nearly 11 million people attended the 2,981 district conventions last year.
"Deliverance at Hand" is the theme for the Jehovah's Witnesses district convention May 26 to 28 at the Resch Center. Serving parts of Wisconsin, Michigan and the Upper Peninsula, the convention opens the season for district meetings throughout the United States. Nearly 11 million people attended the 2,981 district conventions last year. The Saturday morning program concludes with a talk followed by baptism in water for those who qualify. All sessions are open to the public. There are no admission fees and no collections are taken, according to the organizers. Jesus is central to their future and their worship. Stewardship of the land is a vital issue. Members are family-oriented and pro-education. | |
Uninformed |
i've been a lurker for a few weeks and finally threw my hat into the ring a few days ago.
i've been out of the org for almost 30 years.
the whys and wherefores can wait for another time.
The only thing good I can say right now about having been one of JW's is that I learned the hard way that 'religion is a snare and a racket', including theirs.
u
Gary and all,
Remember how we used to clap when the final prayer was over??
I think now, at least subliminally we said it all.
Brant
i would like to start a discussion topic (probably has already been one) on who or how to approach friends and others that are jehovah's witnesses and possible arguments that well get them to examine their belief system.. i have tried without much success, but even though i previously thought these people were "thinking christians" i found that not to be the case.. .
here would be an example: "i try to approach jw's with an unbelieving mate that is having marital problems.".
in all my years at the wt, i was kind of proud that people would call me a "good speaker", or a "fine teacher".
Thank you all for your responses.
Crumpet: Pretty good point of view. Why should they examine their religion when they do it every day and at the Kingdom Hall.
Maybe the approach there, "Are you afraid to discuss with me ideas that may expose a wrong course or teaching or your organization?
Might throw in the WT:
If you are a Witness and feel guilty about looking into the Organization then the following Watchtower statement should put you at ease.
Watchtower May 1 1958 p.261 Is Your Religion the Right One?
“It is important, then, that you "keep testing whether you are in the faith," as Paul declared. Keep checking to see whether the things you believe are in keeping with God's Word. But the question is, Are you willing to put your religion through such a test? There is nothing to fear, because if you have the right religion you can only be reassured by the examination. And if what you believe is not in keeping with the Bible, then you should welcome the truth, because it leads to light and life. - Isa. 8:20, Dy; 2 Cor. 13:5.”
As people of other faiths are encouraged to examine their religion every honest hearted Jehovah’s Witness should be prepared to do the same. If what you believe is the Truth and you sincerely trust in Jehovah, then you can be certain that any examination will strengthen your faith.
Blondie: Good idea.
Rebel8: I like your suggestion, but I made a 40 page brochure to hand out to my oldest and closest friends, and most of them decline.
Garybuss: Very Interesting! Maybe we could somehow capitalize on why they feel so threatened by someone that wants to leave that they have to show them the door. Why not just let people go. Why put such a scare into those remaining, so they are afraid to question anything that the WT says or does. Maybe ask, do they feel they are loving or mean-spirited, and if loving why are they so hard on people that leave, and if they admit they are mean-spirited to those who leave, ask them to provide scriptural proof that is the correct way to do it.
Rooster: Your approach is very reasonable, but the JW's are so caught up with the "light getting brighter" that they do tend to just blow off old outdated lies. Your scripture is great.
thank you all,
Look forward to more ideas.
Brant