Posts by BizzyBee

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First post

by BenRichards in

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i've been lurking here off and on for a few years, figured i would introduce myself and share the clif notes version of my story.. i'm in my late 30's and was born in.

mom was a jw, dad wasn't.

got baptized in my teens and started dating my eventual wife.

One of the most generous and loving acts you could extend to your mother is to stifle your impulse to reveal your realization of TTATT. While it would be gratifying (for you) on several levels, unless you have reason to believe that she may benefit personally from the information, it would put your mother in a very difficult spot.

It sounds as if you and your wife have a pretty successful fade going on. There are many who would love to have had it so easy. It might be wise to play that out indefinitely. Don't make your mom choose between you and the JWs. You might not like the outcome.

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CALVARY - the film

by BizzyBee in

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friends

just saw this today.

quite an experience.

the film raised many issues about clergy, religion, morality, guilt and forgiveness.. .

BizzyBee

Just saw this today. Quite an experience. The film raised many issues about clergy, religion, morality, guilt and forgiveness.

A Catholic priest in NW Ireland is warned during cofession that he is targeted for execution one week hence because of the child abuse sins of other priests. He visits a cast of local characters during that week, each troubled in their personal lives and denigrating of their faith in the church.

Overall a dark film, but thought-provoking (as most dark films are), leavened with wry Irish humour and the bleak (yet beautiful) seascape of the Irish coast.

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Formal Introduction - Hi!!!

by Gustv Cintrn in

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friends

been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.

now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.

a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.

BizzyBee

the religion will need to change tack and become just a religion, not a doomsday cult.

And yet, JW is a cult, not a religion.

As an ordinary religion they cannot attract those who JW always appealed to - the disenfranchised whose only hope was an inside track with God. Without the cult-y aspects - d-t-d, blood, apocalypse, anti-holidays, apolitical, anti-education - then why be a JW? Why not just be a Protestant and be done with it? That has always been the danger of JWs becoming just a mainstream, vanilla religion. What would be the point?

Without their counter-culture persona, what are they? The most incredibly boring people on earth.

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Formal Introduction - Hi!!!

by Gustv Cintrn in

jw
friends

been lurking here for yyyyyeeeeears, but was too busy with school, jw life and other interests.

now that i'm done with education for the time being anyway, plus the jw life is under pretty good control, i can spend some time and throw my views here and there in some attractive topics.. born-in, and deeply indoctrinated, but with life experience came better comprehension of my lot in life and have come to accept that, just like the family one is born into, jws are my family, friends, my ultimate and overall identity.

a jw is what i am; like the song 'hotel california', and like so many on this board, check out anytime you'd like but one could never leave.. remember like it was yesterday the failed 'the wolf is coming' calls of 1975, mid-80s, late 90's, y2k, 2004 or so, and same will be with the latest effort to get people overly excited about 'the end'.

BizzyBee

I find this smorgasbord idea - take what you like, leave the rest - confusing. This is not the JW I grew up with, which advocated, "you eat what you're given even if you choke on it or we will shove it in from the other end."

If you remember 1975, you're no kid. And if you're college-educated, you're no dummy.

Something is missing in this story.

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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

BizzyBee

So the next time we hear a story about a 9 year-old who gets into the driver's seat of the family car and accidentally kills her dad by running him over in the driveway, I expect to hear a lot of JWN posters call for the banning of automobiles. The only way to make cars safe is to make sure no one has one.

This was your first post on this thread and your second and third posts, etc., are in the same vein.

Your argument is that any criticism of the judgement of the adults involved is hindsight. I call BS.

Actually no one has called for the banning of guns here, but have questioned the wisdom of allowing children to use automatic weapons. You give yourself away with your knee-jerk pre-emptive defense of unrestricted gun access - no matter the weapon, no matter the user.

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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

BizzyBee

How does my simply giving a synopsis of the facts of the incident get translated into the idea I agree with what was done?

Maybe spend more time reading my posts and less time reading into them.

ADCMS

You should go back and read your own posts on this thread. You'll see why you're getting negative responses here even though you're trying to walk back your remarks.

While I often agree with your general observations, your position on guns is always pro, no matter the circumstances.

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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

BizzyBee

The problem with the phrase "just an accident" is that it is dismissive of further analysis which might lead to a solution that prevents this happening in the future. It implies that, as a accident, it was unavoidable.

Of course it was an ACCIDENT. But it wasn't just an accident. It was much more than just an accident. It was tragically bad judgement on the part of the adults who were supposed to be in charge. And it should lead to policy changes for all shooting ranges, enforced by the feds if necessary.

OMG! Gun control!

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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

BizzyBee

HTBWC

Hmmm 150 years ago 'kids' knew how to fire a rifle etc BEFORE that age in many parts of America/Canada ..... Kids today are raised not to be men or woemn but to be kids... that is the problem

I don't believe automatic weapons were around 150 years ago.

This gun thing is out of control. Well-regulated militia my Aunt Fanny.

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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

BizzyBee

NAME some of those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

Google "children taught to use guns."

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9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

by EndofMysteries in

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

"a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

BizzyBee

I have a feeling that, as more information is forthcoming, the parents are revealed to be idiots.