This guy is a player like a Scoobysnax. lol, shake the dust off your feet and move on.
Not so fast........Mr. Saki has some real sincerity that I, for one, would not want to discount.......let's see how he plays out, eh?
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
This guy is a player like a Scoobysnax. lol, shake the dust off your feet and move on.
Not so fast........Mr. Saki has some real sincerity that I, for one, would not want to discount.......let's see how he plays out, eh?
yes this orangefatcat has changed to another spiritual path.
i was raised in the anglican church as a child i attended regualary with my beloved grandma.
she passed away in 1992, and when i left the organization in 1999 i had thoughts of perhaps going back to that way of faith.
Glad for you!
how far has their preaching gone exactly, how much "earth" is left to cover, they keep claiming here in the uk that they haven't "invaded china yet" but i know differently.
if they have covered the earth how long has it been ??.
anyone who has a little of knowledge of this i would appreciate how many years they have been preaching worldwide "literally".
Using the word "preaching" is a stretch for what most Jdubs do: reluctantly shuffle up to the householder's door and offer up an Awake! article on "Those Amazing Armadilloes!" and high-tail it back to the coffee shop.
By their response to this farce, people will be judged worthy of life or death?
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
Saki,
I quickly reviewed this thread again and I don't believe I saw mention of Crisis of Conscience, so forgive me if I am being redundant.
This book, written by Raymond Franz (ex-member of the Governing Body and nephew of Pres. Fred Franz) around 1981 (updated 2002), is like a fly-on-the-wall view of the inner workings of the WTS. Do yourself a life-changing favor: get the book, hole up somewhere for at least a whole day, and read it cover to cover. You will be amazed and virtually unable to stop reading, I promise. To say it is eye-opening is an understatement - it is eye-popping! I'm sure everyone on this board would agree that, if you only read one book of this type, this is THE one to choose.
I had the privilege of meeting with Ray Franz and his wife and several other ex-JWs at a small, intimate conference held in Alabama in the early 80s. He is exactly as he seems in the book - serious, intelligent, sincere, and humble.
The Bizzer
i was df bout a year back and have since been enlightened by a life long friend.
i am leaning toward returning anyway but mostly for familyand friends.
i recognize the hypocrisy of this move but also don't feel that i should be subject to there authority and in my current state i am.
Jehoober didMan... watch out for that lightning bolt. It has your name on it.
If Jee-edgar-hoober doesn't have a sense of humor, I will gladly take a direct hit...........wouldn't want to live with Him forever if we can't share a few laughs..........
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
before you engage in verbal swordplay on here. You see, ex-JW apostates know absolutely EVERYTHING you know plus way MORE. We can research and read anything we wish, whereas you...................can't. Scary, isn't it?And thats exactly why I am now in the backseat... just listening. Scary? Heck ya. Just the way you said that gave me the chills... almost sounded a little dem.. <cough> onized <cough>. What? I didn't say anything.
Ahhhhh......then my work here is done................
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
Hum-ster:
BTW, did you belong to another faith before studying with the JWs? If so, then you, too are an apostate according to Wikipedia on-line encyclopedia:
*most converts to a new religion can also be considered apostates from a previous belief.*
Obviously, Jehovah's Witnesses encourage apostacy and, in fact, go from door to door to incite it. Your leaps of logic are huge and you would do well to define terms before you engage in verbal swordplay on here. You see, ex-JW apostates know absolutely EVERYTHING you know plus way MORE. We can research and read anything we wish, whereas you...................can't. Scary, isn't it?
BB, of the raised/3rd generation JW class
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
Mt 24:42 sets up the series of scriptures that are metaphors, the "domestics" being the great crowd, the faithful and descreet slave being the WTS and some of the annointed, and the master being Jehovah...Wait, don't you know this already?
Hummingbird: Actually, I knew about all this before you were even born. Sigh...........the metaphors are self-servingly designed by the WTS - not the Bible. Don't you get the circular nature of their logic yet? Stick around, read more and comment less and more shall be revealed to you.............
i was df bout a year back and have since been enlightened by a life long friend.
i am leaning toward returning anyway but mostly for familyand friends.
i recognize the hypocrisy of this move but also don't feel that i should be subject to there authority and in my current state i am.
Wow, you're such an amazing woman. How I aspire to be like you when I get to be a big boy
CHL: You aspire to be an amazing woman? Good luck - this kind of incisive wit does not just happen overnight. Nor does the gender change.
Look, if someone wants to go back to the organization, I say let them go. Shoot, I didn't write that scripture about a dog returning to its vomit. Jehoober did.
i ask this question because saki said this in another topic:and i would assume that a lot of people on this board left due to this board alone "proving" the lies of the wts.
so, it this true or false?
or is this mostly true or mostly false?
It would seem that doubts would lead one to the site first, in spite of WTS threats.
Ques: What about apologists such as Hummingbird who "accidently" come here thinking it is a pro-Jehovah's Witness board? How many posts would you have to read to know the real story? And then, why would you register as a member? Something verrrrrry fishy.................
P.S. Thrity-five years for me. Do the math.