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  New Mascot - Translator Robot

  by Slave4_38y in

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  2. humour

  this is the latest offering from the caleb/sophia duo - lesson 16, preach in a foreign language.

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  freemindfade

  As to where they are from, maybe Mypos? or maybe where Fez from that 70's show was from....
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  Feeling indifferent

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  right now, at this point in my life, i feel like i should be angry, sad, upset, annoyed, whatever emotion that most of you guys here feel or have felt.. but the overwhelming feeling i get, and i have got since waking up, is indifference.. i think that this might be my subconscious coping mechanism.

  when i go to the meetings or take part in any other wt related activity, i don't care.

  i just really couldn't care less.. i mean, i do care, but i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing.

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  freemindfade

  It is, I think it is healthy to explore ideas that open your mind to possibilities without having to tie it down to "what you believe". This is something I am finally getting through to my wife. this "what do you believe" thing witnesses can't think past.

  This is at the core of my current philosophy.

  It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
  

  Aristotle

  Best of luck to you COH.
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  Feeling indifferent

  by campaign of hate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  right now, at this point in my life, i feel like i should be angry, sad, upset, annoyed, whatever emotion that most of you guys here feel or have felt.. but the overwhelming feeling i get, and i have got since waking up, is indifference.. i think that this might be my subconscious coping mechanism.

  when i go to the meetings or take part in any other wt related activity, i don't care.

  i just really couldn't care less.. i mean, i do care, but i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing.

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  freemindfade

  i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing. It actually does interest me, the ins and outs of the Cult.

  I totally agree with this, any interest I have left is just understanding for my own sanity.

  Especially when I go to the meeting (only to be nice to my wife). Now I see it all for what it is, it actually makes me more anti-theist, atheist and anti jw.cult.

  I do feel going is a waste of my time and life, but I am stuck doing it at the moment to be nice.
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  Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

  earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

  and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

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  freemindfade

  Caedes

  lol or you could say my religion says I can't talk to apostates...

  Kind of like putting them in a round room and telling them to pee in the corner
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  Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

  earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

  and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

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  freemindfade

  cappytan, she is like a different person, she feels my family has totally stepped out of line and doesn't agree with them at all. She is way less "culty" if that is a word. She says I have taught her a lot about not being judgmental and other typical negative JW behavior. Family things has gone down hill.

  You know about 2 years ago i guess she was freaking out about my view of the bible as not true, so she ratted me out to the CO and an elder friend, so they came and talked with me, I told them all these things about how I can't settle out bible stories with science, history and archeology. They were both actually super cool, I thought I was gonna get DF'd. They just said they thought I was intelligent, and they loved me, and to just not completely give up. And that was that. Fast forward two years, I come out with this to some family members and they take it upon themselves to completely disassociate me.

  Like literally no one will speak to me, all my family on IG disappeared. It's so disappointing. But the wife will listen now, our debates don't turn into WW3 and she is very sympathetic. I think since she has had to deal with it for the last few years, and she sees I am still really the same person that she loves, it's a shock to her system to see them all act so... hypocritical. Especially since many of them have been involved in some pretty scandalous things and disfellowshipping everything you can imagine, they are not living the standard JW model, they miss most meetings and don't go out regular, and they are taking the lead in trashing me. She is not dumb, she sees how f---ed up that is. Especially since I have been so kind and generous to all of them and never spoken a harsh word, even when I was on top of my JW game and they were floundering
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  Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

  earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

  and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

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  freemindfade

  Laika

  Yes thank you, inquisition, too early to start typing these things lol.

  It has become so ingrained in the JWdom, like 1914, that no matter how gravely wrong, it seems they can't change it now, to quote the movie 'Focus' die with the lie....

  
  
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  Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

  earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

  and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

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  freemindfade

  While discussing being mistreated by my own JW family last night with my wife, I wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

  Earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture

  And most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

  So I told my wife, visualize dark age priests and religious leaders who would physically torture a "heretic" in order to get them to say, "what was I thinking... of course the earth is flat... yes there is a god... please can we put the fire out now, thanks"...

  If the end means is same, to cause someone to be forced to claim they believe what the church says because of the extreme discomfort, either physiological or physical, what does that really accomplish?

  1. Physical and Psychological torture are abhorrent, most witnesses would never consider shunning to be the second one, but it absolutely is.
  2. if someone concedes and says "ok, I am wrong, you were right all along" just to get the torture to stop, it didn't make them a believer it just made them want to stop the pain. Again, what was the point? Ego.
  3. If someone refuses, they are in effect tortured to death, in dark ages literally, in these wacko modern religions socially they are executed. They refuse and they are dead to all former witnesses, and in the case of "apostasy", the whole thing I think makes them never want to return, and see it for what it really is. This is probably where you get the stat that 2/3 never return. (by the way I hear this statistic a lot, does anyone have references to where it came from?)

  Anyway, just sharing my musings. Witnesses never think too deeply into these things, I know when I was "in" I just followed the rules too. If anyone is interested in watching a video to that end, check this out:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-PvBo75PDo

  
  
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  Autotune the Governing Body

  by SonoftheTrinity in

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  which would be the best talks to autotune?.

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  freemindfade

  Lett or morris or a combination of the 2

  cappytan we should make this a project

  A rap about education...

  we could autotune some of their education rants, with uneducated, bad grammar, not even english words, sprinkled throughout...

  "thinky-ist"
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  JW.org is sponsoring now??????

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  please pay close attention at the beginning 0.36-0.47 when sponsors are seen.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8yaxdra8f9q#t=47.

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  freemindfade

  Maybe they just put that in there without permission because it appears to them to be a popular site in their country and they want to appear themselves to be sponsored by a heavy hitter lol. I call shenanigans most likely
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  Letter to a DF Parent

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thank you for raising me in this religion, this religion that when people get disfellowshipped you have to cut off all communication, even family.

  thank you for making sure all of my friends, work partners, family and 99% of my life was centered around this organization.

  thank you for taking the time to study with me, read the bible, making me excluded from all school activities and friends so that my whole social life was surrounded by jw.

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  freemindfade

  I now have a JW wife,responsibilities, friends and family all with expectations!

  I would venture to say most of us have been there. Its not just you, the thing is designed to make expectations a gigantic psychological burden to bare. Fear Obligation Guilt... You need to rise about those things. It's scary but when you take control it will be well worth the freedom you feel, and the peace you will experience.