Posts by freemindfade

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"Lets imitate faithful Lot of old...."

by stuckinarut2 in

i know we have all discussed at length the account / story of lot.... another thought occurred to me today...lets analyse his real personality,.

in the very beginning of the account, lot is shown to be a selfish man...one that chose the better land and area..... then he was opportunistic and materialistic and kept living in a nice city, even though he was supposedly shocked by the immorality and lawlessness..... then we see him to be cowardly when he decided to send out his daughters to be pack raped.. later we learn he was heartless as he allowed his wife to turn around and look, and didnt protect her from doing so.. then we know he was lacking in self control and allowed himself to get drunk...twice.. then we know he was dismissive and unrestrained and a general sicko when he had sex with his daughters...twice in a row!.

oh, but no...lets all praise him for being a righteous man.????!!!.

freemindfade

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"Lets imitate faithful Lot of old...."

by stuckinarut2 in

i know we have all discussed at length the account / story of lot.... another thought occurred to me today...lets analyse his real personality,.

in the very beginning of the account, lot is shown to be a selfish man...one that chose the better land and area..... then he was opportunistic and materialistic and kept living in a nice city, even though he was supposedly shocked by the immorality and lawlessness..... then we see him to be cowardly when he decided to send out his daughters to be pack raped.. later we learn he was heartless as he allowed his wife to turn around and look, and didnt protect her from doing so.. then we know he was lacking in self control and allowed himself to get drunk...twice.. then we know he was dismissive and unrestrained and a general sicko when he had sex with his daughters...twice in a row!.

oh, but no...lets all praise him for being a righteous man.????!!!.

freemindfade

Belief doesn't make you a better person, your behavior does.

this is why the bible us a crock.

it all ends with "belief", you can be an ass hole and have strong belief and your good. But if you are the best person and choose not to believe. There is no hope for you.

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Why I resent being baptized into jw.cult

by freemindfade in

i hate being lynched by my family for being skeptical or rational.

witness treat you as though all morality and good end with belief in the ot god yhwh.

so even if you met or exceeded their moral level and you even doubted his existence.

freemindfade

Not sure cappytan they are all (including my wife) talking behind my back and no one is speaking to me either way. I will go on. Bridges burn tables turn you live and you learn. I'd never choose to leave my own family. But this is getting quickly out of my hands. I won't make it easy for them.

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Please Focus on the Bible

by terrypike in

hi people, may i firstly thank those who have responded to to my intro article, i am replying to you all as a new topic because the direct messaging is not working for me at the moment so i can clarify my perspective on bible study.

yes there are many arguments that are put forward to demonstrate for example that the bible has been composed of numerous preexisting creation story's ect, my focus is to give the bible the same opportunity to defend itself as anyone reasonably expects if charged with some crime they are not guilty of.. i find for example the account of jesus response when questioned about the divorce certificate 'but it was not so in the beginning' confirms that moses allowed changes to be made to the original, that said consider also the religious traditions moses people had been exposed to, the story of the god enki who seduced even his own grandchildren and the well known incest of the egyptian royalty, given the genetic cost, are such practices any more right now than they were then?

communities that practice close relative marriages today are well documented for there higher risk of numerous health problems so how would you find moses on that basis, guilty or not guilty as jesus did because he understood why moses took the creation story's of other cultures and gave his people there own creation story that taught them to avoid the general pagan practice of incest.before looking any deeper at moses creation story may i also ask the question why does jesus knowing that god promised he would never again destroy the world by a flood as he did in noah's day say 'as in the days of noah ..the flood came and took them all away' so what did jesus actually mean mt 24:.

freemindfade

The bible has probably been responsible for making more atheists than any other source.

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According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

by flipper in

considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

freemindfade

Flipper and defender of truth thank you

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Donations

by FadeToBlack in

i think that since i am the sole wage-earner in our household, i need to make it clear to my wife that i don't want any of my hard-earned wages going to the wt.

i know she makes a monthly contribution to an animal shelter and i am fine with that.

what do you think?

freemindfade

I agree. On both. No to jw.cult and yes to animal rescue.

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According to Oct.1st 2012 WT Directions- Past Child Molesters CAN Be Appointed Elders

by flipper in

considering the fact that the wt society refuses to release in courts any of it's written directions to elders through confidential letters to elder bodies- i thought i'd do the courts and wt society a "favor " by posting excerpts from this oct 1st.

2012 letter from the wt society to all bodies of elders.

these instructions are very exposing of the negligence of wt authorities in how they view the seriousness of felony child abuse.

freemindfade

Dude! flipper thank you! My brother called me a liar and full of BS, because back when he was an elder I'd say 8-10 years ago he claims molesters could never be used (elder MS etc.) He loved throwing that in my face. Told me I was "full of Bull$hit". This is huge.

Anyway to see this letter?

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Why I resent being baptized into jw.cult

by freemindfade in

i hate being lynched by my family for being skeptical or rational.

witness treat you as though all morality and good end with belief in the ot god yhwh.

so even if you met or exceeded their moral level and you even doubted his existence.

freemindfade

I hate being lynched by my family for being skeptical or rational. Witness treat you as though all morality and good end with belief in the OT god yhwh. So even if you met or exceeded their moral level and you even doubted his existence. You lose. Another corpse at Armageddon. Think about what this meme implies for a moment. And the preaching work etc

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Even if everything about the "truth" was all true...........

by pontoon in

i will say that one of the most distasteful teachings for me is the idea of praising, thanking, worshiping, god every day for all eternity.

what kind of ego needs that?

like if i ever saved a person's life i would say buy me a bottle of scotch and we'll call it even.

freemindfade

Agreed, something they will never even think about (jws). The idea of "love me or else" but they too practice it in a way. My family has done the most detestable things to me these last two weeks for only expressing the need to think rational and they tool what I said all the way to me preaching atheism. Because for me to think different than them is the greatest insult. You insult our God. You insult us. Same proud bull $hit

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The "preaching work" is just laughable!

by cookiemaster in

the "preaching work" they're so eager to brag about is just laughable.

they say their number is an indication of god's blessing.

oh, please, give me a break!

freemindfade

Well for them what is the rush now, 100years came and went, we are on generation version 3.0, if anything now, they may want the preaching to drag out slower. It's buying them time