Welcome. Enjoy letting go of fear, obligation, and guilt here.
FMF
have lurked here for many, many years.
female, latina, middle-aged, born-in, 3rd generation jw, northeast usa.
my fate is to continue to play the game 'till death do us part because the very strong and tangled web of friends, family, business, etc.
Welcome. Enjoy letting go of fear, obligation, and guilt here.
FMF
well, this is a new development.
she broached the subject of ttatt tonight.
said i was right about the flood.
this video contains "the truth!!
" can you accept it??.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=et8f6p6blfg.
P.H.D...
Piled higher and deeper
the borg might not fall and disappear, but it's sure heading into the oblivion.
they predicted their future in last week's study.. last week during the cong book study they mentioned the following:.
15. to illustrate: a supertanker or a freight train might be awesome in terms of size and power.
Love how they describe themselves then say good thing thats not us!
i'm new here but not new to researching and questioning the jw beliefs.
i have quite a story.... one that's been haunting me for awhile... but first, i'd like to hear what people have to say about this topic question, please.. -gigi.
so since i blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring.
to which i exploded back with an email.
may have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.
My uncle gave me an example of the Gibeonites, who joined with the Israelites, I felt like asking him, was that because they loved YHWH? Or scared of being killed by him and his goat herding tribesmen?
DFing is the same, no? do this because you are afraid. So I am not afraid of anything so I wont be afraid of DFing, I'll do my best to avoid it, but I don't fear it.
after all my reading, conversations, study, meditating, video watching, etc.. this for me, could very well be the "end all" topic to clearly define why being a jw is useless.. there is zero scriptural evidence that following the rules of a "governing body" of men is required to be acceptable to god or to gain salvation ( everlasting life in paradise ).. when asked by anyone, this will be my reply.
"show me the evidence".... i don't care if it cries out, "i'm an apostate"!.
whomever hears the comment will not be able to ignore it.
so since i blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring.
to which i exploded back with an email.
may have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.
kairos, I'll message you when I get a chance
Here was my original rant... I usually ignore all this until they stop but kept getting emails to no end. My response that probably made my families jaws hit the floor was this: (sorry for grammar errors etc, i was pissed.)
"I think its barbaric and being obsessed with a global genocide of unbelievers makes us more like ISIS than I care to feel like. It’s a fine line, and I the idea behind it is similar.
Doesn’t build my faith, or make me feel the end is any closer and I have watched some of the actual videos, them burning someone alive who they feel doesn’t have what they consider “The Truth”. Maybe more witnesses should watch the actual videos. Because emails and discussions like this I see a similar blood lust that ISIS displays the only difference is one I wishing for it and saying god will do it and the other is wishing for it and acting on it, but the spirit feels the same. I was trying not to say anything but I keep getting them. And trying to predict “The End”, how many times can that not happen before you feel lied to? A “cry wolf” situation. In that story were the people blamed for not believing the boy when he said this it the last time? No because it creates a underlying distrust. You won’t have to go to school, you won’t have to get a job, you won’t have to have kids, you won’t get old… this is the last car I’ll ever own, this is it, this year, now this is it."
so since i blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring.
to which i exploded back with an email.
may have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.
Agree with both of you. I may have hastened my fade, I don't want to lose my brother, I really do love him and my nieces and nephews. The carzy thing is non of them are strong JW at all. Miss most meetings, dont do service and so on and so on. But with this, they will stand up. The rest of my family views them as WEAK already. I am familiar with FOG model and BITE model.
I hope that I can postpone any kind of DFing. I really don't want that, and my family is all on the other side of the country, not even sure if they know what hall I am in now, I am going to say no they dont.
If anything I think this is making my wife see some reason believe it or not. The two of us have had many knock down drag out (metaphorically speaking) fights about the "Truth". And that is coming to an end. Not happening anymore. She has become far less judgmental as of late, not just of me, but in general.
i thought it was ex"plane"d at the corporate meeting that type-antitypes were finished unless it expressly is stated in the bible.. from the feb 22 study article.
question on paragraph 11- what comparison found at psalm 122:3,4 could be applied to god's people today?.
during the coming time of trouble for this system, we will have to be truly united.