Posts by reneeisorym

i've been reading some of the posts here, and i notice a significant number of them make reference to "jehovah" or something called "jehovah's witnesses.

although i attended the kingdom hall services for more than 20 years, i can't say i'm familiar with the term.

could someone enlighten me?

So it's more logical to conclude that a big explosion happened and it just so happened that this one planet landed at just the right place to make life possible? Then somehow some parts came together without a maker but by chance to create a complex item called a cell? Then somehow these cells came together to create a variety of creatures that evolved into a variety of species who just so happen to coexist perfectly into a society?

That seems logical but if I suggested to you that I found a deserted island with this car on it -- and since I was sure the island had never been inhabited, that the car must have gotten there by some parts just falling there like that? The assumption that there was a car maker would be completely untrue unless we could prove the existance of said car maker?

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NEW TRACT CAMPAIGN PLANNED....

by sir82 in

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....for october 20 - november 16.. there is a new tract to be introduced, with the title "do you want to know the truth?".

it is not a "kingdom news" campaign - after the campaign, this tract will join the "regular rotation" of tracts to be used in the field misery.. it is designed to replace the "do you want to know more about the bible" tract - the goal is to use it to start "bible" studies.. the goal is to cover all of the congregation's territory in 4 weeks, similar to other campaigns in the past.

unlike other campaigns, though, the congregations can order as many as they would like - they are not limited to 50 per publisher.

reneeisorym

"The end of false religion" crap never made any sense to me. For it to "end" a government would have to ban religion including JWs. Then the religion would remain in the hearts of both the JWs and the other members of religions. Most other prodestants aren't tied to a mother organization like the JWs are. It would be impossible for it to just "fall". It would however be possible for JWs to "fall" if the Society went under.

Renee

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I went to church for the FIRST time...

by zeroday in

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i was out in california visiting the folks when my father and his wife invited me to their church for sunday services...well being out of the borg for 4 years and a devote atheist i said "why not"... they go to a nondenominational foursquare church...i first asked if this was snake night to my suprise no... so off i went...the service started with a christian rock band playing christian rock for about half an hour (not bad actually) everyone either standing or kneeling with outstreached hands the whole time...then the pastor got up and began his sermon titled:.

"the right way to die" ok i'm getting a little weirded out here and expect a punch bowl of koolaid to appear at anytime now... not so it was about getting right with god at the time of our death to meet the lord in heaven...all in all a very nice service and very nice people but i did not get the "tap on the shoulder" i was expecting i guess it's for the believing only....

reneeisorym

Oh I'm so happy you enjoyed it! :)

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My JW uncle died -- going to visitation.

by reneeisorym in

i was a 5th generation jw so i have my whole entire family in this borg.. my uncle died yesterday.

he was the one that owned the antebellum home i grew up in (built in 1837).

his son was a very dear friend of mine because we were close to the same age.

reneeisorym

Ok so it's over -- and I didn't have to worry about what to say.

I walked in and there were about 30 there. (Not many) It was just the visitation and not the funeral. I walked in tall and with my head up, making eye contact. I saw a room full of people who I loved and were dear to me. I didn't see but about 2 I didn't know. They were all ouside the door and around the room with the casket. I met eyes with many lost friends and family. All of them (but two and i'll get to that) didn't even make any expression that made me think they saw me but they looked me straight in the eye. It was like they saw right through me. I felt like a ghost but yet eveyone was staring at the same time. I walked in the room, signed the book and walked out. Before I went in, I gave my husband some wedding pictures to give my dad. He told my mom he wanted some but I just got around to getting them made last week. On the way out I saw my dad and told my husband to hand him the pictures. He shook my dad's hand and mentioned the pictures, handing them to him. He took them, looked at me and smiled. I went to walk out and saw my beloved grandmother. (This grandmother is on the top five people I have cared the most about in my life). I knew her back was to me and she wouldn't see me without me getting her attention. I put my hand on her back. She looked at me. I smiled. She smiled, mouthed hello, and I walked away.

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My JW uncle died -- going to visitation.

by reneeisorym in

i was a 5th generation jw so i have my whole entire family in this borg.. my uncle died yesterday.

he was the one that owned the antebellum home i grew up in (built in 1837).

his son was a very dear friend of mine because we were close to the same age.

reneeisorym

Thanks for sharing ...

I am thinking it should be fun having my husband there that doesn't know these people. I can just say in a normal voice (not whisper) things like -- "See that lady there, that's my grandmother that I told you taught me how to cook." "See that man? That's your father-in-law" "That lady there is my aunt that I grew up next door to."

And if anyone says "Come back to Jehovah" .. I think I'll say "There's far greater love, peace, and happiness where I am but thank you for your concern."

Thoughts? Or do I need to work on my resentment showing a bit? I just MUST be there because my uncle's son hasn't been baptized, he's 22, and has spoken very kind words to me from time to time since I left. I need to go for him. He needs to know I care.

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My JW uncle died -- going to visitation.

by reneeisorym in

i was a 5th generation jw so i have my whole entire family in this borg.. my uncle died yesterday.

he was the one that owned the antebellum home i grew up in (built in 1837).

his son was a very dear friend of mine because we were close to the same age.

reneeisorym

I know they are going to say "come back to Jehovah" if they say anything. I'm trying to decide what to reply with. I have to say something. I'm just not the quiet type. But I dont' want to make anyone upset at the already emotional situation either. I want to be respectful.

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My JW uncle died -- going to visitation.

by reneeisorym in

i was a 5th generation jw so i have my whole entire family in this borg.. my uncle died yesterday.

he was the one that owned the antebellum home i grew up in (built in 1837).

his son was a very dear friend of mine because we were close to the same age.

reneeisorym

I was a 5th generation JW so I have my whole entire family in this borg.

My uncle died yesterday. He was the one that owned the antebellum home I grew up in (built in 1837). His son was a very dear friend of mine because we were close to the same age. His son was always so dear to me (few years younger than me). He had the sweetest wife ever. She was actually kind and comassionate unlike most JWs.

He died Wednesday and they are having visitation tonight. I can't bring myself to go to the funeral no matter how much I want to. I think it would bring back too many memories and I just can't take it. I can handle going to the visitation at the funeral home. All of my JW family will be there that I haven't spoken to in 2 1/4 years: From my dear grandmother who taught me how to cook in her kitchen when I was young -- to my dad -- to my cousins I grew up playing with and being best friends with until the DA ...

This is really emotional for me. I would really like to hear about your experiences with such things. How did it go? I would just like an idea of what to expect -- even if it's bad.

Thanks! Renee

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Have you gained more than lost?

by compound complex in

greetings, my friends:.

the above question is not in regard to one's weight.

that would be a rude question .... in terms of your jw experience, have the losses you've suffered been offset by the good you've gained?.

reneeisorym

Lost: Father and 34 other family members. My home (I was one heir of the house I lived in which belonged to my JW grandmother), My life. Lifelong friends. A dickhead of a husband.

Gained: A relationship with Jesus Christ, A new darling husband (who had a nicer house... LOL), I kept my mom -- she left a year after I did, new friends who are much more unconditional, My husband's family, and better yet: I broke the chain so my future children won't have this in their past.

Overall, I've lost a lot but gained more. I am happier than I have ever been.

Renee