OpenFireGlass,
Before, you looked like a sneaky preacher boy. Now, you look honest.
I prefer you much more now!
Skeeter (who can not post a picture for personal reasons).
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by Honesty in.
that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .
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Missing in Turkey?
by KW13 inthats right folks, mum and stepdad said on thursday they were going to turkey, and they left on friday.. now its wednesday and no phone call or anything, despite mum promising to give me a number asap incase something went wrong over there or here.
sooooo should i be worried?
keep in mind, she is usually over-protective and that she's a jw.
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skeeter1
Your mum went to a Turkish Bath for women, and is never going to return.
Skeeter
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The Discoveries of Barbara Anderson - Eyewitness to Deceit
by Dogpatch inhey everyone!
yesterday, may 15, 2006, gyldendal publishing company in copenhagen, denmark, published an expose' about the religion of jehovah's witnesses.
the name of the new book is, "dommedag ma vente," or, in english, "judgment day must wait," written by poul bregninge of denmark.
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skeeter1
Wow, what a great story. Barbara needs to write a book.
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Blood Doctrine - JW please answer
by golden age inwhy are jws so against blood transfustions, do they not see that this is exactly the oppositie of what jesus taught.
jesus taught that healing was allowed on the sabath, even though if violated the rule of not working on the sabath, he was teaching that in the event of an emergency life is more important than the law.
how would a jw feel if a loved one died and then 2 months later the wt said new light told them that transfusions are ok. (do not say this will not happen, becasue they originally said vaccinations were a direct violation of the everlasting covenant with god and must be avoided, now they say vaccines are good.
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"Abstain from blood" = Sanctity for life = 45 MPH
Think of it the scripture this way...
If you were driving your wife, who was in labor, to the hospital...and the speed limit was 45mph, would you "break" the law? Yes, and the police officer would give you an escort.
If you were an ambulance driver on the way to an emergency, can you break the 45 mph limit? Of course.
Without an emergency-type situation, can you break the speed limit? No.
Same thing with the blood laws (both in Jewish, Islamic, and Christian tradition).
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Does your personal vehicle reflect your personality?
by Gregor inthere is a clever volkswagen tv ad currently running in the u s that depicts various types of people driving cars that reflect their personality, like older males driving sleek sports cars to compensate for their "shortcomings" or a younger man driving an expensive european sedan as he pronounces with a bullhorn "because my father never hugged me!
or another who says "because i make more money than you!
have any of you ever gotten your self image tangled up with a vehicle?
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I hope not....
It's dirty and old. (I'm too cheap to buy a new car).
Skeeter
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skeeter1
Sam the Eagle is my hero!
Skeeter
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Blood Doctrine - JW please answer
by golden age inwhy are jws so against blood transfustions, do they not see that this is exactly the oppositie of what jesus taught.
jesus taught that healing was allowed on the sabath, even though if violated the rule of not working on the sabath, he was teaching that in the event of an emergency life is more important than the law.
how would a jw feel if a loved one died and then 2 months later the wt said new light told them that transfusions are ok. (do not say this will not happen, becasue they originally said vaccinations were a direct violation of the everlasting covenant with god and must be avoided, now they say vaccines are good.
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THIS IS MY MOST IMPORTANT POST -PLEASE READ
******************************************************************************************************************** The Talmud was written down in about 200 A.D. The Jews decided to write down thier oral traditions which originated from the courts of Moses down through time. So, while it's "man's word", it is handed down, generation after generation, of how Moses & his subsequent rabbi's interpreted the Torah to life's situations. So, don't "diss" the Talmud as meaningless. I think it's "on-point" as to how the Jews around Christ's time (i.e. the early Christians) would have reacted to drinking blood.
In the Talmud, there is a "book" called "Tractate Yoma". In Chapter VIII Mishna it states that pregnant women allowed to smell non-kosher meats and even eat unclean meats if not satisfied. In Jewish tradition, the weak or sick are allowed to break the Yom Kippur's fasting rules. Plus, there is a famous, Jewish saying, " “pikkiah nefesh doheh Shabbot." This means that rescuing a life in danger takes precedence over the Sabbath
Rabbi Dr. Immanuel Jakobovits wrote a book called Jewish Medical Ethics – A Comparative and Historical Study of the Jewish Relious Attitude to Medicine and Its Practice, (Block Publishing Company 1959). It is THE book on medical ethics for Jewish doctors. In fact, the Society has tried to quote this book as being used against blood.....I just can't remember in what publication it was.... Anyway, on page 45 of this book, Rabbi Jakobovits states that preservation of human life takes precedence over God’s laws with the exception of idolatry, murder, and incest. Thus, Jewish doctors work on the Sabbath, Jewish patients take blood if thier life is in peril, and get vaccinated with pig serum.
If that's not enough...Daniel Eisenbur, MD has a website that states the Mitzot principal of living, not dying by Jewish laws. See “Mandate to Heal: What is the Role of the Physician in Jewish Law?,” http://www.aish.com/societyWork/work/The_Mandate_to_Heal.asp
Also, did not King David violate the Sabboth to help his sick infant?
................now for Islam.........
Islam & Jews are not that far apart as they would like. They were brothers in about 22 B.C. Islam & Jews follow the SAME "no blood" & eating laws, to this VERY DAY.
"The Holy Qur’on, at "S.5 A.3" states “Forbidden to you (for food) Are: dead meat, blood, The flesh of swine, and that On which has been invoked The name of other than Allah, That which hath been Killed by stangling, Or a violent blow, Or by headlong fall, Or being gored to death; That which has been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; Unless you were able to slaughter it (in due form) That which has been sacrificed on stone (alters); (Forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling With arrows; that is impiety.”
But the Qur'on, like the Jewish laws, except sick or frail people
"The Holy Quron, “O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you As it was prescribed To those before you, That ye may (learn) Self-restraint. (Fasting) for a fixed Number of days; But if any of you is ill, Or on a journey, The prescribed number (Should be made up) From days later. For those who can do it.”
The Islamic people also have an oral tradition book, the Islamic Sunnah which states in Chapter 5, verse 4 says that the prohibited food may be eaten in cases of extreme hunger, but if any is forced by hunger with no inclination to transgression, God is indeed oft-forgiving and most merciful
So, this is why the Islamic people also take blood, pig vaccines, etc. when they are sick. Islamic or Jewish people would NEVER eat blood at the table with a normal meal. Nor, would they eat blood because they were merely "hungry". Instead, thier lives had to be in danger. This makes sense, they were "desert" people. They had to kill animals & eat blood animals ALL thier lives. Ask anyone from Europe how the Jews survived during/after the concentration camps. Rats, unbled rats, my folks.
So, were the soldiers at 1 Samuel 14:31-35 "hungry" from battle....or was thier life in danger? I think they were just hungry from a hard battle. In answering the 1 Samuel argument, a Jew or Muslim might state that these soldiers were hungry, not ill or starving-to-death, when they broke the commandment. In either event, Jehovah God was, as Islam says (supra), “most merciful and kind” as none were sanctioned. Since both of these ancient religions contain an “in order to save a life” exception, this is not an argument that originated solely in modern times, as the Society’s may lead its followers to believe
Respectfully (toast to Auldsoul),
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skeeter1
I liked Kate, and many of the Idols. I would buy all of thier albums. Even Bucky was great singing the Burt B. song.
Skeeter
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Blood Doctrine - JW please answer
by golden age inwhy are jws so against blood transfustions, do they not see that this is exactly the oppositie of what jesus taught.
jesus taught that healing was allowed on the sabath, even though if violated the rule of not working on the sabath, he was teaching that in the event of an emergency life is more important than the law.
how would a jw feel if a loved one died and then 2 months later the wt said new light told them that transfusions are ok. (do not say this will not happen, becasue they originally said vaccinations were a direct violation of the everlasting covenant with god and must be avoided, now they say vaccines are good.
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I agree with Golden Age on the fact that "Saving Lives" takes place over the Torah, including Genesis. The only laws that stood above eating blood was killing a human life and denouncing Jehovah. Those who only have JW teachings, should explore the Jewish and Islamic teachings on these points.
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I Don't Think Prince Will Be Appointed an Elder Anytime Soon!
by Seeker4 inprince was just on american idol.
pretty sexy songs he did, with two women who sure weren't dressed to be on the tms!
he's just got to be too smart and creative to hang in with the witnesses for too much longer.
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Prince should have sang, "Keep you eyes on the Prize" or anything from the song book....Wonder if he's going to be called by the elders...or if the $$$ Prince has given the BORG gives him special treatment.