i just talked to a friend that knows a jw that went to the district convention here in michigan a few weeks ago,this jw's father happens to be an elder.this jw told my friend that there was a person that was handing out fliers saying,"stop supporting child abuse" it went futher to quote dateline and other references about silent lambs.this jw also said that they called the police to try and stop this person from handing out fliers,but all the police could do was get them off the silverdomes property,so then this person was handing out fliers on the sidewalk.this jw went futher and said that the elders were going around trying to find out who had the fliers and confiscate them.this whole thing only went on for a short while as there was a brother that was directing people around this person so they would not get or see the flier.now you know if the role was reversed the jw's would be crying foul,i guess they forget how many times they went to court so they could "preach".
you would think the leaders of "god's visible organization" would want their members to have information concerning child molesters, because they want to stop child abuse,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but look at how much effort they put into preventing members from knowing about the problem.......
i guess, the leaders of "the watchtower society" think of the whole issue of protecting children is about as important as "toilet paper"........like the jw "fred hall" just mentioned. ........thanks fred.
i'm absolutely disgusted as what the gb members are letting go on inside the organization with regards to pedophiles, but i guess it shouldn't come as any great surprise after all the other crap they've pulled over the years.. one can only assume that their sheer arrogance and/or stupidity in their "we can't do anything without two witnesses" policy, is a sign that they're either possessed or they're all getting collective alzheimers disease.......it's ridiculous to pretend that child abuse doesn't go on in the congregations - it goes on in every single religious organization on earth, simply because you have imperfect people in every single religious organization on earth.. if child molesters within the congregation were pursued with the same gusto and enthusiasm as those that buy lottery tickets or question doctrines, they'd be doing something.
one can only assume that none of the governing body members have any children (thank god!
) or they'd never come up with such a stupid policy.
the other sisters all "recanted" their stories..............it's called conspiracy to silence witnesses.
that's why it's so hard to prosecute jw abusers,....... the elders have free reign to threaten and silence any witnesses who dare come forward.
that's what the gov body did to ray franz......... i think they disfellowshipped about 1/4 of bethel to shut everyone up that knew what was really going on.
some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.
it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.
presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.
hi you know,
i have to give you credit, that was some good propaganda!!!!!........ no matter how many failed predictions and scams the watchtower was involved in, .......... you are able to convince members ......."it's all just a test from jehovah,,,,,,,to see if you stay loyal to his organization."
no matter how wicked your organization gets,.....even while the court system takes you down now, for conspiracy to harbor pedophiles........ you will say, it's proof that it's the true religion, god is testing you.
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according to the march 15, 2002 wt page 14 the "seven stars" of revelation 1:20 in christ's righ hand apply exclusively to appointed jw elders today and since they and the governing body are under christ's direction we should submit to their leadership etc.. .
at the kingdom hall last week i heard a talk in wich the speaker intimated that since the congregations in asia minor all received letters they were organized in much the same way as the wt is today.. what is your take on this matter?
i just read revelation chapter 2 and 3,............. it sounds more like the bible says there are lots of different congregations (organizations) with all different teachings......... to me.
jw congregations are all the same,,,,,,, they are clones of the gov body.
i don't doubt that prisons are getting more and more jws in them........hahahahaha!!!!! .......... and jws need all the territory they can get to try to make more members............ it wouldn't bother me if they go in there and preach.......... stopping them from preaching isn't the way to stop that organization,.......exposing their teachings to the whole word is what will convince people not even to listen to them anymore........... suing them for harboring pedophiles is more effective.......... just my opinion.
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http://www4.fosters.com/news2002/june_02/jun24_02/news/nh0624q_02.asp
conviction upheld in nh!.
how come the elders could not be compelled to testify?
i was just pondering the scripture, but i'm not sure if it's satan who's demanded the 'faithful' to be sifted as wheat.
i can't remember where the scripture is either.
my question is: why did jehovah give in to his demands?
hi "you know"............... what makes you think that the watctower bible and tract publishing company is "god's organization"???? matt 24:24........... korah claimed he was god's organization too!!!!!
"thrilling convention"...only took notes of comments / observations not including:.
- typical "gloom and doom" (real heavy since 9/11).
- "do more" (especially as some one of a kind robotic drones demonstrate).
microscope?????........ who needs a microscope to see one failed prediciton after the other....deut 18:20, matt 24:24......................who needs a microscope to see dateline, and the harboring of pedophiles and punishing of victims?????........ did you really mean "please just close your eyes"?
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you know,
do you think the end of the current system is going to happen in your lifetime?
hi again fred,........ i notice you side-stepped the whole issue again........... you were asked to comment on all the false prophechys that the watchtower has produced in god's name............. you even brougt up a couple of dates yourself .....1925, 1975........ care to comment on deut 18:20?
one more question, ........ when the end does come......... who is going to be destroyed, us (who makes no predicitons).......... or you and the watchtower leaders???...... matt 24:24.
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you know,
do you think the end of the current system is going to happen in your lifetime?
hi you know,
you said; at some point you will have to come to terms with the foolish reasoning.....
you mean, after the watchtower falls, because of all the law suits, and they are exposed as just a lurking place for demons?
