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1 Timothy 2:6
by defd in.
i was wondering why the new world translation says corresponding ransom , where as others do not.
anyone know where i can go and get a translation from greek to english.. d.
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Rutherford and Elevators -- All Others Use the Stairs
by VM44 induring the olin moyle court case, some of the "jehovah's witnesses" witnesses were asked on the stand if they knew if the elevators were held at ground floor at lunchtime so that rutherford would not have to wait to use them when he returned to the building.. other people had to use the stairs; the elevators had to be kept ready for rutherford.. the jw witnesses denied knowing anything about this.
but in reading the transcript of the trial, one gets the impression that none of the jws wanted to admit anything negative about rutherford, for instance, that rutherford would give "trimmings" (verbal scolding) to individuals at lunchtime was not readily admitted by even clayton woodworth, a person who had direct experience being reprimanded by the "judge"!.
trying to get info from the witnesses appeared to be like squeezing water from a stone!
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JAY DUBS: Russells Legitimate Children or Rutherford's Bastard Sons?
by Nate Merit in(i'm posting this because i have read older threads in which the jw's are referred to as pastor russell's disciples, his spiritual children, etc.
also, disparaging remarks about russell here and there.
no doubt this topic has been discussed already, but perhaps you would like to join me in another go).
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I've Got a Christmas Present Given by Pastor Russell
by Seeker4 ini've got a really good collection of wts literature that i've been working on since the 1960s.
one book i have is a copy of poems of the dawn, copyright 1912, leatherbound.. it's inscribed thus: "eleanor a. shires - a gift from pastor russell - xmas 1911".
the cover is in rough shape, but the pages are perfect.
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Was Rutherford a good lawyer? Or was he Bluffing?
by VM44 inwas rutherford a good lawyer?.
this is a question i have asked myself several times.. the facts are tha rutherford took a course in shorthand, and worked in a law office for a time, and then became a lawyer (passed the bar) by passing an oral examination given by a panel of lawyers.. does that qualify for an education in law?.
rutherford, as it is well know, filled in for the travelling circuit judge a few times, for a total of four days.. years later it was published that rutherford was a member of the "new york bar", but there is a question if that group even existed.. there is no record that i know of indicating rutherford ever won a case in court of law.. when ct russell sued the brooklyn daily eagle for libel over a cartoon of him that they published, another lawyer instead of rutherford was used (although rutherford was there and involved in the case, he just was no the lead lawyer).
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Early Christianity - a cult?
by serendipity in.
i was wondering if anyone has applied the criteria that identifies a cult to first century christianity, as described in the bible, and historical records from the first three centuries.
have any of you run across a discussion like that while reading books on cults, hopefully by an author that is either supportive of, or tolerant of christianity?.
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Book - "A People for His Name" by Timothy White
by VM44 in.
"a people for his name" by timothy white is an early, but still excellent, book about the history of the jws.. here is a page containing portions from the book.
http://members.fortunecity.com/peopleforhisname/peopleforhisname.htm.
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The final and correct interpretation of John 1.1
by Hellrider inyup, i finally did it.
i solved the problem.
this is the final and correct interpretation of john 1.1. it came to me after reading a quote by origen: "if anyone would say that the word of god or the wisdom of god had a beginning, let him beware lest he direct his impiety rather against the unbegotten father, since he denies that he was always father, and that he has always begotten the word.
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I am confused. What do JW's believe about the 144,000 all "dying" before Ar
by booker-t ini am again confused on a teaching of jw's.
while i was at the donut shop an elderly jw woman came up to me and started to discuss armaggeddon with me.
since this is one of my favorite topics i engaged in dialogue with her.
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will the earth be destroyed.
by ajie ini am a present studying the book what does the bible really teach,and am unable to counter the bit where they say the new earth is people and not the literal earth,ive pointed out scriptures that say it will be burned up e.c.t.but the guy relates it to noahs day when the earth was not literal earth that was destroyed but the wicked people,he says this is the same with the new world to come,it is the rightouse people, at the moment we agree to disagree but does anyone know a good way to counter this argument.though doing a goggle search on the subject it seems to me that christians have all sorts of veiws on the subject which only leaves me more confused.