This thread in itself gives us the single biggest reason why this organization is in peril. THERE IS NO LOVE AMONG THEMSELVES. IT'S ALL A FACADE. If there were true love like what is described in the Bible then these examples would be the exemption. But the truth is its the norm. The organization as a whole is canabalistic
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Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep
by doubtfull1799 in"what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?
" - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.
i am happy to be left alone.
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Theme of this year's series of Conventions
by MrTheocratic init was announced this week that the theme for the 3 day convention is "do not give up".
these are the words that are spoken to someone who is struggling and is in the process of giving up.
this theme tells me that many in the organization are tiring out and slowing down.
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MrTheocratic
It was announced this week that the Theme for the 3 day convention is "Do Not Give Up".
These are the words that are spoken to someone who is struggling and is in the process of giving up. This theme tells me that many in the organization are tiring out and slowing down. I certainly see it locally....but this theme tells me it's not just local.
If the world was Sooo bad and the organization was sooooo good why the exorortation not to give up? Would Noah have to tell his fellow shipmates to not give up as they listen to the commotion outside the Ark? Evidently things are getting tough within the org and some are leaving.
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Has the rebranding worked?
by MrTheocratic init's been several years since the start of the rebranding of jehovahs witnesses.
i believe it started with the website change.
ever since then the religion has moved in a more modern direction.
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MrTheocratic
It's been several years since the start of the rebranding of Jehovahs Witnesses. I believe it started with the website change. Ever since then the religion has moved in a more modern direction. In my opinion it is an attempt to paint the Titanic as it sinks.
Though you have some who brag about jw.org and various video presentations at meetings and assembly's , I do not see the enthusiasm that was present in the late 80s early 90's. Maybe it's just my part of the world ( north east USA). But even friends I talk to from other areas have observed the same thing. Most go to meetings out of obligation and guilt, not because they want to be there. The congregations are full of problems, mostly caused by those who are supposed to be taking the lead. The pioneers are no source of encouragement but rather deter others from following their course because they serve with no joy. Come to think of it no one has joy when you look around at those inside the kingdom hall. One brother when visiting my hall said it was like a funeral.
What do you guys think and see? Has the rebranding been a success or bust?
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When you stop & think about it ,why would Gods chosen people in the Old testament need an army ?
by smiddy inas the op states why would israel /jewish nation need to have an army at all ?
if they were the chosen people as the bible states under a theocracy , why would the men of israel need an army .?
to protect them ?.
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Can you imagine the psychological effects of killing with the sword all these people? Today the effects of war on participants is PTSD. I am surprised we do not read of such effects in isreal.
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Long Island/ Faders-Laevers
by Drifting Away inso anybody from long island, ny?i just realized i spelled leavers wrong.
oops.
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MrTheocratic
I'm right across the Long Island sound......good ol' CT.
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Worshiping a piece of stone
by FedUpJW intoday one of the members of the local congregation who is somewhat limited intellectually was showing off a small bit of cut granite stone.
as he did so he made sure to let everyone know that it was given to him by the congregation service overseer who just completed his second or third round of bragging rights slave labor at warwick.
he mentioned that, "brother _______ gave this to me as a piece of reality from warwick.
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MrTheocratic
That reminds me when I was in Bethel.....the friends in the congregation would love anything they thought was from bethel.
For example: after bookstudy one night we had goodie night. Everyone was to bring some sort of dish or desert. Well on my way to the meeting from Brooklyn I stopped at the commissary to pick up 3 packs of Pepperidge farm soft chocolate cookies. I put them in a plastic container and bought them. Before I could say anything the bookstudy conductor announces to the entire group before the closing prayer " please don't leave imediately after prayer, our dear bethel brother would like to share some Kingdom Cookies with us".
You would fall out laughing at how these people gobbled these cookies up...as if the finger of God had made them.
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If An Organization Really Believed It Had the Truth...
by xjwsrock in....it would not be scared of critics.
actually they would naturally take an offensive stance, wouldn't they?
they would welcome debate... even encourage it.
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MrTheocratic
Well said xjwsrock.......there is no excuse.
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Hi Everyone
by Wayward ini just came over from jwr.
a little background: my mom converted to the witnesses when i was five.
i was baptized at 14, was mentally out by 18, and successfully faded by the time i was 25. mom and both my younger sisters and their families are still in.
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MrTheocratic
Nice to meet you. At 25 I was fully in ......pioneering and serving as a ministerial servant. What I would give to have that time back.
Anyway welcome
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Trump could be the new 1914
by MrTheocratic inif wwi did not happen in 1914 the jw religion may not have survived.
many back then were already disillusioned with the fact that they were not taking to heaven.
some left.
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MrTheocratic
If WWI did not happen in 1914 the JW religion may not have survived. Many back then were already disillusioned with the fact that they were not taking to heaven. Some left. Then WW1 happened and the JWs started saying "see 1914 had some significance", and the religion hasn't stopped since.
After listening to Donald Trump and his anti radical islam agenda...he could be the very thing that keeps the JW religion alive. All it will take is another attack on the scale of 9/11 and he would have the whole country, both democrats and Republicans behind him to go after islam.
You could hear the Jw's now " THIS IS THE START OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION". Then all those bunker videos we have been seeing from the RC'S will come to life.
So the way I see it Jw leadership is praying that Trump wins in November.
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Are the witnesses really False prophets?
by MrTheocratic inwhen you read the following statements from the wt.
organization... do they satisfy you?
or better stated...... should you be satisfied by there answers?.
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Sparrowdown........
No I do not. It just amazes me that many Jdubs put complete trust in every word they read from this organization..and then proceed to make life altering decisions based off these "published ideas".
If we are all wrong and this organization was and is God's mouthpiece. ..then God would need to apologize for the lives ruined due to heeding the advice of his organization.