Posts by ICBehindtheCurtain

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Reading the Bible Made Me Leave "The Truth" & Christianity

by Seeker4 in

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friends

i was looking up a couple of verses the other day in my nwt reference bible the one with larger print, footnotes, cross references, etc.

in my day i was quite a diligent student - the bible is filled with my notes and comments, and i'd already worn out another one earlier.

one of the things that i found surprising as i was reading my notes, was how often they were pointing out inconsistencies, contradictions and obvious lies in the biblical text.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Terry and Seeker4 I'm with you guys on this, I didn't completely open my eyes to the whole truth until I started really reading the bible in context. I read "The Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine and that sealed it for me. I just can't believed how fooled I was for so many years and how many people still believe in this Book of fables and stories. If you look at the OT texts that supposedly support the idea that Jesus fulfilled all those prophesies you will see that they were taken out of context in order to prove that Jesus was the foretold Messiah, I was so amazed when I saw that, and to think that for over 2,000 years this belief has survived, unbelievable!!!

IC

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"It's The Truth!" (A Poetic Retrospective of the Watchtower Society)

by Confession in

"it's the truth!

i think this just might be the truth

lets all just believe its the truth!

ICBehindtheCurtain

WOW Confession, ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!!, Thanks, I enjoyed that, and you said the TRUTH!

IC

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Mind control, evil and projection - the Law of Attraction

by DjSadhu in

hey everybody, i just signed up.

i'm djsadhu, ex-jg, raised jg, quit/kicked at age 16, now 30.

i have some food for thoughts that you may find interesting, i hope you will find this a refreshing point-of-view.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Hello DJSadhu and a Warm Welcome to you! That was a great first post, I totally agree with what you are saying.. When "The Secret" movie first came out I was amazed, it made so much sense and since then it has really enhanced my view on things. When I watched it I felt compelled to share it on here, but failed to mention that the movie was not free, and was blasted by some, although others were receptive and in the end, I'm glad I mentioned it. We truly attract things to ourselves, the constant rhetoric of things are so bad in the world only feeds that fear and makes it worst, the news media, the government, other religions they are all contributing to the mess we are in, hopefully people will start to open their eyes and see that these are the best times in history to be alive in, we have endless opportunities and can choose to make our lives better.

IC

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Fred Franz yelling in spanish?

by drew sagan in

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friends

i was reading the book 'apocalypse delayed' by james penton and came to the part that disucessed the crackdown that occured in the org during the early 1980's.

one of the referances made note to a talk that was recorded in which fred franz spoke to a congregation in queens, ny and yelled at them in spanish.

has this ever made it's was to the internet?

ICBehindtheCurtain

I remember, I was there , damn I wish I would have recorded it, but I was young and stupid then. It was quite a shock to see little Freddie and other "Big Wigs" show up all at once, all you could here at first was the murmuring of many voices wondering what was going to happen. Needless to say he was quite pissed!!

IC

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To all who know Scootergirl...

by frozen one in

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friends

i just received a phone call from a friend.

she wanted to let me know that scootergirl's husband committed suicide.

i know scootergirl has many, many friends on this board.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Scootergirl, my condolences to you and your family

IC

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MERRYS MOTHER HAS DIED

by tijkmo in

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merrymagdelene is back home and agreed to me letting you know that her mother died on friday morning...understandably she doesnt feel much like posting at the moment..but will let us know her feelings as soon as she is able...the memorial service will be held on the 29th... (((((merry))))))

ICBehindtheCurtain

Merry M, I'm sorry for your loss, my condolences to you and yours

IC

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Disgusting comment regarding the baptism at the DC

by under_believer in

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at the service meeting the other day the "friends" were given an opportunity to discuss the district convention (portland, or, june 30-july 2).

) people baptized at that convention.

a bigger number than i remember for at least a decade.

ICBehindtheCurtain

TO ALL YOU JW LURKERS!!!! If you let your children get baptized too young, this usually means that they will be DF'd when the troublesome teenage years get here, and you will LOSE THEM, because the WTS teaches that you should not socialize and that you should shun your children. They will be left out in the cold, and you will not be there to council them when lifes problems arise, because they will feel rejected by you and will no confide in you, instead they will turn to their freinds with disastrous results. Isn't it better to allow your child to grow up and live his life, if later on he chooses to join the JW's at least it will be with a mature mind that can deal with life. IF YOU LOVE YOUR CHILDREN, DON"T LET THEM GET BAPTIZED TOO EARLY!!!, as you can see all around you in the Kingdom Halls, It doesn't keep them from anything, how many kids in your hall are now out?

IC

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-9-06 WT Study (TELL FINALE)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 7-9-06 wt study (june 1, 2006 issue date, pages 21-25)(tells finale).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Blondie, THANK YOU - for putting up with this torture for all of us!! I of course will not be attending this CRAPPY study, just couldn't stand sitting there silently while this idiocy was being considered, I don't think I could refrain myself from raising my hand and spilling the beans. So.....I'lle just stay home and enjoy my Sunday with my family, gardening or going somewhere to have some actual fun!

THANKS AGAIN!

IC

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J.R. Brown says Watchtower is NOT better than others!

by UnDisfellowshipped in

look at the world's finest "theocratic warfare strategy" in action:

quotes from a reporter's interview with j.r. brown on june 30th, 2006 (taken from silentlambs.org):

it's not true of us today.

ICBehindtheCurtain

UnDf'd thanks for sharing that, they are in a bind aren't they? I LOVE IT!!! I would love to be a fly on the wall, at the GB meetings about this, so I can see those idiots scramble!

IC

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Have any of you been to e-watchman?

by Silvia Plath in

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http://www.e-watchman.com/.

this site is also made up of many ex and current jw's, the difference is they all remain deeply committed to christianity and bible study, but are extremely distrustful of the watch tower orginanization and consider it to be a "pharisee" or a "false prophet" what the bible warns of.

from what i am reading they seem to be the beginning movements of a break away sect, many of them praise russell who seems to have been more spiritual and laid back and trace the demise of the movement with rutherford, who began introducing all the messed up rules they have now.

ICBehindtheCurtain

Arwen, exactly the case with me, I was on there before he was DF'd also, and found it fascinating in the beginning, it was instrumental for opening my eyes to the real "TRUTH", when I continued reading on here and doing more research into other cultures that were around before the Hebrews IT WAS ALL OVER, I rarely go to that site anymore, it's just the same old people discussing the same old things, thinking that the Borg will be readjusted and that they are the evil slave, but change is coming bla,bla,bla. They still believe in the Bible BS, I'm beyond that now so I don't see any sense in it.

IC