Well it has always been part of WT's mission to reach out to people of different languages. That they probably get high marks in.
Isaac
has anyone noticed how many spanish kingdom halls there are in nc?
most are shared by the english speaking congregations.
of course there are other spanish churches also.
Well it has always been part of WT's mission to reach out to people of different languages. That they probably get high marks in.
Isaac
a poster recently described himself that way and it got me thinking as to just how strange that position is.
for the theist it's a convenient win/win situation, hold onto your belief in god while attempting to cloak yourself in science's robes of rationality and reason.
i think believers who hold this precarious opinion need calling on it.. for now i'll just say that this mongrelization of views is, to me, deeeply unsatisfying.
I don't really think it's lame, it's basically accepting that evolution is correct because of the overwhelming evidence but not accepting there is no reason for first cause. No matter what Science cannot trace the first cause, they can trace back to the beginning to show how something happened, but not why.
This is what I starting thinking as a JW. If God is all powerful then he can do what he wants right? Now that I feel more free to think what I want I've just suspended judgment on the whole God issue as there seems to be circumstantial evidence for both positions.
Isaac
honestly, did you really care about everyone in your hall?.
everyone gripes about how the majority of elders never cared but were you one who regularly showed how much you cared for the "brothers and sisters"?
i'll bet we all share some guilt in this.
As an elder and "shepherd" I know I did. Still do in fact. And I still communicate with three who are inactive or df'd. Hopefully more will communicate in the future though I won't get my hopes up.
here is a smart rcmp officer.
the rcmp officer.
a mountie stops a driver for running a red light.
lol
ok obviously a dumb question, for so many reasons, but i need to know what the current doctrine is re the resurrected; last time i looked they were 'as angels' in that they're not able to breed, which solves the population problem of bringing back to life almost everybody who has ever died.
anyway thing is this; my sisters' cancer has been resolved for now in that she's currently 'cancer free'.
it has, however, been a melanoma, a germinoma and a few carcinoma so she's being scanned pretty regularly, and i don't have a lot of info to go on but i think that nobody's talking about what her odds really are.
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IsitwiseforaChristianwhosematehasdiedtoremainsingleinthehopeofbeingreunitedinthefuture? w876/1pp.30-31QuestionsFromReaders *** From ReadersHow fine it is that a Christian should feel love for his or her mate even after that one has died! Some in this situation have remained single, not because of being content with singleness, but in hopes of resuming the marriage after the resurrection. While not being insensitive to the human feelings behind those hopes, we encourage such ones to consider some Biblical points.
For instance, bearing on the matter are the apostle Paul’s words: "A wife is bound during all the time her husband is alive. But if her husband should fall asleep in death, she is free to be married to whom she wants, only in the Lord. But she is happier if she remains as she is." (1 Corinthians 7:39, 40) This shows that the marital bond ends when one’s mate dies. It was a kindness for God to inform Christians of this, for thus widows and widowers can weigh their emotional and other needs in deciding whether to remarry; they are not bound to the deceased.—1 Corinthians 7:8, 9.
Does the Bible, though, indicate whether resurrected ones will be able to marry or to resume a previous marriage that was ended by a death? One account seems to bear on this question. It involved Sadducees who, while not even believing in the resurrection, came to Jesus trying to entrap him. They presented this problem involving brother-in-law marriage: "There were seven brothers; and the first took a wife and died childless. So the second, and the third took her. Likewise even the seven: they did not leave children behind, but died off. Lastly, the woman also died. Consequently, in the resurrection, of which one of them does she become the wife?"—Luke 20:27-33; Matthew 22:23-28.
Christians are not under the Law, but a similar difficulty could be raised concerning them. For example: Brother and Sister C—— were married and had two children. Then he died. Sister C—— loved and deeply missed him, but she felt a need for companionship, financial support, sexual expression, and help with the children. So she married Brother M——, which union was as Scriptural as the first. Later he became ill and died. If the former mates were resurrected and marriage were possible, whom might she marry?
Consider Jesus’ response to the Sadducees: "The children of this system of things marry and are given in marriage, but those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of things and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. In fact, neither can they die anymore, for they are like the angels, and they are God’s children by being children of the resurrection. But that the dead are raised up even Moses disclosed . . . when he calls Jehovah ‘the God of Abraham and God of Isaac and God of Jacob.’ He is a God, not of the dead, but of the living, for they are all living to him."—Luke 20:34-38; Matthew 22:29-32.
Some have felt that Jesus was here referring to the heavenly resurrection, yet there are reasons to believe that his reply was about the earthly resurrection in the coming "system of things." What reasons underlie this view? Those questioning Jesus did not believe in him or know about a heavenly resurrection. They asked about a Jewish family under the Law. In reply Jesus referred to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, men who hoped for life again on earth. (Genesis 42:38; Job 14:13-15; compare Hebrews 11:19.) Those patriarchs, and millions of others, who are raised on earth and who prove faithful will be "like the angels." Though mortal, they will not die once God has declared them righteous for endless life.
Human emotions today might make this a difficult conclusion to accept. But it is to be noted that nowhere does the Bible say that God’s resurrecting the faithful means restoring their marital status. Hence, no one believes that if Aquila and Priscilla have gained life in heaven, they have resumed their marriage. (Acts 18:2) And Joseph and Mary will evidently live in different realms—he on earth and she in heaven. (John 19:26; Acts 1:13, 14) Since none of us have lived in heaven, we cannot say what feelings Aquila, Priscilla, and Mary might have there, yet we can be sure of their finding full contentment in their heavenly service.
Similarly, we have never lived as perfect humans. Thus we cannot be sure how we will feel about past relationships if and when we gain perfect human life in a paradise. It is good for us to remember that when Jesus made that statement he was a perfect human and therefore in a better position than we to appreciate the feelings of those who are "counted worthy of gaining that system of things." We can also trust that Jesus is able to ‘sympathize with our present weaknesses.’ (Hebrews 4:15) So if a Christian finds it hard to accept the conclusion that resurrected ones will not marry, he can be sure that God and Christ are understanding. And he can simply wait to see what occurs.
There is no reason now to overemphasize this matter. The psalmist wrote: "Know that Jehovah is God. It is he that has made us, and not we ourselves. We are his people and the sheep of his pasturage . . . Give thanks to him, bless his name. For Jehovah is good." (Psalm 100:3-5) Our good God will certainly provide amply for our true needs if we are "counted worthy of gaining that system of things."—Job 34:10-12; Psalm 104:28; 107:9.
God’s goodness is reflected also in his informing us that the death of a mate concludes the marriage. (Romans 7:2) Thus anyone who has lost a mate can know that he or she is free to remarry now if that seems needed or best. Some have remarried, thereby helping to fill their own present needs and those of their family. (1 Corinthians 7:36-38; Ephesians 6:1-4) Consequently, a Christian whose mate has died should not feel obliged to remain mateless now out of an expectation that former marriage mates will be reunited in the resurrection to life here on earth in the coming system.
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If an Israelite died before his wife brought forth a son who could receive the inheritance, the man’s brother had to marry the widow with the view of producing a son by her.—Deuteronomy 25:5-10.
divorce is hard for everyone, unless the person is just jumping for joy to get out it.....but even then it can be rough....and you lose half your assets.....some people stay in bad marriages just because they can not afford to be divorced........ but esp if you are a born in jw.....you know what is so unfair compared to normal non-jw divorces????
?....what is so fukkin unfair?!?
!.......that you lose all your friends and family!!!!
So true. But for me its worth it.
Isaac
jw's are so brain dead that some of them are passing around the following email.
that outlines a daily study routine:.
suggested personal study schedule:.
I remember seeing something like this as a dub. JWs have so much they're supposed to do, they don't have enough time to do it all. So they're always trying to find some way to squeeze it all in. It finally dawned on me it was all too much to begin with. Duhhhhh!!!
Isaac
during a recent special day assembly program, ted said that woman in a physically abusive marriage should submit to her husband so that eventually her husbands may respond to their submission and come to worship god.
my family was completely shocked.
can you imagine the culpability and responsibility of this man who claims to speak for the christ to encourage women to get beat up as way to encourage their abusive husbands to come into the truth.
Ok I have to find another way to post out of WTLIB 2007. Sorry about the formatting. It just proves that one version of WT teaching in this area is to "grin and bear it" in hope the "unbeliever" will come around.
Isaac
during a recent special day assembly program, ted said that woman in a physically abusive marriage should submit to her husband so that eventually her husbands may respond to their submission and come to worship god.
my family was completely shocked.
can you imagine the culpability and responsibility of this man who claims to speak for the christ to encourage women to get beat up as way to encourage their abusive husbands to come into the truth.
Ted said that woman in a physically abusive marriage should submit to her husband so that eventually her husbands may respond to their submission and come to worship god.
Of course this is official WT teaching.
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rsp.251Marriage***matesjustcannotlivetogetherinpeace,isseparationpermissible?1 Cor. 7:10-16: "To the married people I give instructions, yet not I but the Lord, that a wife should not depart from her husband; but if she should actually depart, let her remain unmarried or else make up again with her husband; and a husband should not leave his wife. But to the others I say, yes, I, not the Lord [but, as verse 40 shows, Paul was directed by holy spirit]: If any brother has an unbelieving wife, and yet she is agreeable to dwelling with him, let him not leave her; and a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and yet he is agreeable to dwelling with her, let her not leave her husband. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in relation to the brother; otherwise, your children would really be unclean, but now they are holy. But if the unbelieving one proceeds to depart, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not in servitude under such circumstances, but God has called you to peace. For, wife, how do you know but that you will save your husband? Or, husband, how do you know but that you will save your wife?" (Why would the believer put up with hardship and earnestly endeavor to hold the marriage together? Out of respect for the divine origin of marriage and in hope that the unbeliever may in time be helped to become a servant of the true God.)
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w714/1pp.202-203UnitingtheDividedHousehold***INTEGRITY—THEFIRSTGOAL9
This brings us to the first goal in a divided household. What is that? The believer needs to keep integrity to God and to obey the one through whom God speaks today—his beloved Son, Jesus Christ. To yield integrity is to yield life itself. (Heb. 1:1, 2; 2:3; Matt. 10:32-35) When discussing divided households, Jesus said: "Indeed, a man’s enemies will be persons of his own household," and then Jesus explained: "He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me." (Matt. 10:36, 37) If it must come to a showdown, then what? The believer must "obey God as ruler rather than men." (Acts 5:29) True, it may be a long war of nerves, but keep the goal of integrity foremost. The believer should refuse to become provoked or loud, when the going gets difficult. Realize that it is better to take abuse than to give it. (Eph. 4:26, 29, 31) And all who are members of the Christian congregation can help these persons who are fighting the battle of integrity on the home front. Encourage them to endure, to keep integrity to Almighty God.i posted these thoughts on another, shall we say, less populous forum.
i am intrigued by the matter, but not really seeking answers.
i post it here:.
I don't believe that I need faith in anything at all. I simply live and enjoy life and work good toward others. I work with what I have and am not hopeless. I'm not a sinner in need of a savior, therefor, I don't need faith. I have things in my personality that need work, as we all do. Faith implies that you are expecting something and I'm not.
My feelings as well.
Isaac