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  New book: Keep Yourselves In God's Love: Chapter and appendix on blood

  by truthseeker in

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  here is a scan of the chapter on do you value life as god does?.

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  how many jw,s eat rare beef??
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-04-08 WT Study (MARRIAGE)

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  comments you will not hear at the 05-04-08 wt study (march 15, 2008, pages 7-11 )(joy/marriage).

  review comments will be in red.

  wt material from today's wt will be in black.

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  i was a male virgin on my honeymoon night. Right after consummating our marriage I knew it was a mistake. At 19 yrs old, it was base on sex. It seems to me those that have had some experience in life ,marriages last longer. Testing the waters could be a good thing, some may not agree.
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  It's official....Bookstudy is DOA

  by CoonDawg in

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  okay, so my wife and mom both got back from their public talk / wt study this evening.

  my loudmouthed sister asked if there were any announcements.

  the bookstudy is hereafter known as "the congregation bible study".

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  just last nite I ask my daughter have you heard any thing concerning the booh study? She said dad the book study is a very important meeting. Where did you here this. I said I have my reliable sources. If you need too know what is going on with in your organization ask me.
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  Why the bookstudy change won't affect as much as you think, tho big!

  by Dogpatch in

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  when prophecies faila sociological perspective on failed expectation in the watchtower societyby randall wattersfrom the bethel ministries newsletter may/june 1990 (now the free minds journal) .

  few aspects of the jehovah's witness movement are more fascinating to the outside observer than their predictions of the end of the world.

  yet the predictions themselves are just the surface ripples of a much deeper current in the lives of the movement's adherents.

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  the affect it will make, none. The same affect that a fly will have when it pass gas in a hurricane.
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  Emotional Reactions to the Loss of the Book Study

  by DT in

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  i think the loss of the book study will hit some like a death of a friend.

  it will mark the end of an era.

  it will forever change the religion of jehovah's witnesses and i believe the change is completely irreversible.. of course, most witnesses will be delighted by this.

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  It will take a while too sink in .. For those that have left the borg. you remerber how strange it was to miss your first assembly. It,s very hard for the average JW to make changes. They are like robots, what will we do with the time off. Many older ones have been doing this for years, and a major change like this will disrupt their thinking ability. A sad story that happen too me at the book study. I was the reader and we face the frinds, myself and the bookstudy conductor. One of the young women was how can i say this, very suggestive. I was new around my early 20,s..The young lady around 17 or 18. She would sit on the back row and ,well make sure I could see under her dress. This went on for a few meeting. This was her house where we had our meetings ,her mother house.I told the book study conductor, and he in turn resolve the problem. Those was some difficult times in reading.Now I have grown older and relize this young women was reaching out, she was looking for attention. Growing up as a JW is not easy.
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  Long last letter to dad...please comment-not mailed yet

  by dawg in

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  dad, .

  i doubt youll even read this letter since it comes from your son, a son youve abandoned over your religious views, but i wanted to write you one final letter to see if theres any hope that you can come to your senses as far as this religion goes and we can renew our relationship.

  im doing this because i care for you and mom deeply and feel very much distressed that you two refuse to see anyones opinion as being factual other than your own when it concerns the jw religion.

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  my story, not my father but my younger brother. we were very close. I told him , Iam sure you have wonder why I have not return too the org. I will tell you and maybe we can discuss some of the problems I have with org. If my veiw is wrong I will be present at the next meeting. He call me to discuss the issues. I begain with all the false dates, his commit why are you bring up old history. My answer a solid foundation is very important. Then UN involvement, he did not know of the borg involvement, it,s a lie. He is a elder. So again I told him , if any of my info is incorrect please tell me. He said it does not matter, what counts is what the borg. is doing today.So he said lets end this conversation, you are under the influence of satan and is know need in going any futher. So he told me never talk too him again.
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  Stay or leave your spouse after leaving JWs - Do you have regrets?

  by Awakened at Gilead in

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  2. relationships

  i am in a situation that many of you have faced... whether to stay with my spouse or not after having learned the falsehood of the org.. my wife is diehard witness who gets upset whenever i talk about the org negatively.

  she is not happy that i am on jwd... in fact the other day she picked up the keyboard and wanted to throw it accros the room or bash me with it when she saw i was on jwd... she is also very upset about me making friends with "apostates" and worldly people, and told me never to bring them to our home!

  this concerns me, since i am not going to have any friends in the org, and i need at least a few friendships...she doesn't want me to talk to the friends in the cong about my decision so that i don't share my doubts.

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  married 19yrs.Love my wife but she loved the borg more then she love me. We both have remarried, I am in a very good relationship, she hates hers . It,s sad it could have work.We divorce in 1987,just recently she told my son , we meaning she and I should be enjoying our grand kids togather. What a waste. If we had tried too make it work, it,s hard to say. Those years before we divorce I develop extreme case of panic disorder that is still with me today. Leaving the room when a JW come to visit her, all the social events . It.s very hard too stay togather because the borg will pull you a part.
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  JW membership turnover - a real-life study

  by besty in

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  much has been commented here on how jw's rely on an ever-changing membership for keeping their 'the sky is falling, the world is ending' doctrine fresh.. recently it was posted that fully 2/3 of born-in jw's leave at some point, and i thought you might like to see how this works in practice.. so lets take sam and i and our extended families - we were both born and brought up jw's.

  start with me.

  mum and dad were converted in the 1950's.

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  i need help with my family. We came in around the late 60,and early 1970. Myself,sister and younger brother and our mates.Over the years we added 39 too the ranks. Six of those today are elders,and my sister was one of the 144000, she died a year ago.Only me ,my two sons and a grandson is out.Today when I see my family members they turn away, I have been out since 1987. My family are die heart JW.They are still very active. But I understand ,not one of them have any college education.My son last year at UCLA, this open his eyes. They are all low income windows washer, houseclearners, car detailers and two electrican.
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  The Future of the Watchtower Society and the Internet

  by DT in

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  2. friends

  it seems that the watchtower society was very ill prepared for the advent of the internet.

  perhaps, some of the governing body thought the end would come before it became a big problem.

  now it is a big problem and is only going to get worse.

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  i made this comment before , i can see the borg moving to up state new york. ALL JW,s that live here in the USA. Why, they can have total control, the schools ,internet, no outside influence.Just like that other group in utah.They can clean each others house, kids would enjoy school. The new light, the preaching work is done. I can see a growth in the ranks, less stress among the average jw.
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  How Important is Ritual in Your Life?

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey gang,.

  how important is ritual to you?.

  many who leave the watchtower find ritual to be very healing and meaningful in our lives.. anyone here found the same to be true?.

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  my ritual , i too use to read the bible every day, like the last post over time i became a agnnostic. After researching the real meaning for celebrating holidays i felt comfortable. Xmas, birthdays, new years etc.How important are ritual in my life , the joy i see when my grand kids open thier gift for xmas.on thier birthday. It will be a moment they will never forget. I remerber when i was young and those times i still recall today. I read the bible still , but now , golf, guitar practice,and not sure if indian casino a ritual. Life is good,