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  Books

  by larc in

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  a good book,.

  i was wondering if any of you have read a book "visions of glory" by barbara grizzutti harrison.

  as far as i know, it is the only book written by a woman about the witness experience.

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  Carmel

  TR, mention loose behavior and you're dragging a fresh herring infront of a hungry salmon...Old leather face will snap like a sculpin after fresh eggs! You got her pegged!

  candyman
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  New to Board

  by LeeHiker in

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  hi to everyone,just found this board yesterday.at first i thought.

  this was "big rays" board,but i guess not,lol.i've been hanging out .

  at h20 for the past 2yrs and learned quite a bit about the wbts,some.

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  Carmel

  Welcome Lee,

  Does that mean you only hike on the lee side of the mountain? Kinda like a "fairweather christian"? Sorry, couldn't help myself!

  Been over at the watering hole myself. don't say much other than to jab the fundies in the ribs when they get to preaching free water and all that crap.

  carmel
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  Superbowl Prediction Time!

  by ISP in

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  tired of being disappointed when predictions dont come true?

  ever thought you could do better yourself?

  why not give it a try....................... .

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  Carmel

  Heck I can tell you the score of the game before it starts!
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  duh, how old is that one?

  spelunker
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  "fullness of the Gentiles"

  by RR in

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  for i do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to israel until the fullness of the gentiles has come in.

  - romans 11:25. .

  i wonder how many of you having read the 11 chapter of romans, see that the jews have not been rejected of god forever.. seems to me from the above verse that they were blinded to the truth, and that this blindness is temporary ... until the fullness of the gentiles, the gentiles, of course being those who would make up the church class, the bride of christ, the 144,000.. what say ye?.

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  Carmel

  Running the risk of talking to myself here, I thought I'd check the big old dictionary on the definitions of "remnant". One of several is "last of a group" a "trace" or "sign".

  Can one person be a "sign of God", or the "remnant" thereof?

  Seems so!

  Carmel
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  "fullness of the Gentiles"

  by RR in

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  for i do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to israel until the fullness of the gentiles has come in.

  - romans 11:25. .

  i wonder how many of you having read the 11 chapter of romans, see that the jews have not been rejected of god forever.. seems to me from the above verse that they were blinded to the truth, and that this blindness is temporary ... until the fullness of the gentiles, the gentiles, of course being those who would make up the church class, the bride of christ, the 144,000.. what say ye?.

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  Carmel

  Well when it comes to dealing with the Palistinians, the Jews don't seem to have any sensibilities to dull!

  Carmel, an innocent bystander
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  Advantages of being a JW

  by ISP in

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  clearly there is a great deal of anti-jw sentiment here and elsewhere for that matter.

  such feelings are generally directed at those at the heart of the organisation and there are no such feelings for the rank and file who are often very genuine people.. in actual fact there are some advantages in being a fully loaded jw and to be fair it would be interesting to note them down.

  they can be factual or whimsical or both.

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  ISP,

  I've participated in other lists that talked about the positive effects of growing up a JW kid. Some had nothing on there list and others recognized that there were some advantages. For me there were certain core values that were given lip service by the Borg that I took to heart and believe to this day. The only problem was the WBTS didn't live up to its own claims. For instance we were taught that science and religion were in agreement, a concept I was attracted to. In reality, if "science" didn't agree with the GB then it was dismissed as "false science". How handy! We were told that there was no racial prejudice in the Society, again an ideal I was attracted to. The reality was quite the different.

  I will always be thankful for the early training in giving talks. I have no trouble addressing large or small gatherings, speaking or presiding in meetings of all kinds. Learned it as a good little dubby!

  I also gained a great deal of skepticism from the experiance yet didn't let the attitude prevent me from being open to new ideas and checking out other belief systems. Unlike many departing and departed JWs, a didn't buy into the mantra that all religion is a fraud. On the contrary, I have found the religious systems to be rather awe inspiring and another form of beauty mucked up by people.

  Guess I missed out on a lot of crap that others endured, but then I departed the mothership at the tender age of 15.

  carmel
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  "fullness of the Gentiles"

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for i do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to israel until the fullness of the gentiles has come in.

  - romans 11:25. .

  i wonder how many of you having read the 11 chapter of romans, see that the jews have not been rejected of god forever.. seems to me from the above verse that they were blinded to the truth, and that this blindness is temporary ... until the fullness of the gentiles, the gentiles, of course being those who would make up the church class, the bride of christ, the 144,000.. what say ye?.

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  Carmel

  Sure looking like Jeru is having its time of trouble..where's that there "remnant"?

  Wonder how many ways the term "remnant" can be taken.....

  Carmel (the mountain, not the candy)
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  Jesus second coming in the first century

  by Jr in

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  this discussion will be quite extensive.

  so, i have broken it up in to subtopics.

  it will be shared by myself and associates in the faith.

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  Carmel

  ........(the sound of one hand clapping).......

  spelunker
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  Are you Ex's still Christian?

  by joel in

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  whassup guys.

  i've spent most of my web time over the last 2 years at another site full of ex-jdubs...i'd say about 50 people post there on occasion...many of that number regularly.. what struck me from the beginning, as i got to know the people posting there was...how many were now atheists...non-believers in god...the bible...pretty much anything they once held sacred as jw's!.

  i dare say...90 some % do not consider themselves christian now!.

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  Carmel

  Carmel...exjw, post agnostic, Baha'i
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  Thanks For your Input All

  by eyes_opened in

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  thanks everyone!

  you were very supportive and helpful on this subject.. <with the exception of the idiot at the end lol>.

  edited by - eyes_opened on 23 january 2001 19:40:40

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  Carmel

  Eyes, I've been away for a couple days! What questions did you ask and where?

  carmel who loves questions like Socrates