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  WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1

  by Quentin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  am currently reading this book.

  would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.

  excerpts, printed by waking lion press.

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  Here is Gladden's take on Higher Criticism. Without rancor a comment objective and sensible. You might be interested to know Snoozy the book of Hebrews was also contested as to its inculsion in the canon. Interesting to see how they voted on which books were allowed into the Bible...
  ( Snoozy )...Interesting indeed. Kind of like the gb, eh?

  A great amount of study has been expended
  of late on the Scriptures, and the conclusions
  reached by this study are of
  What is called the Higher Criticism has been
  busy scanning these old writings, and trying to
  find out all about them. What is the Higher
  Criticism ? It is the attempt to learn from the
  Scriptures themselves the truth about their ori-
  gin. It consists in a careful study of the Ian-
  guage of the books, of the manners and customs
  referred to in them, of the historical facts men-
  tioned by them ; it compares part with part, and
  book with book, to discover agreements, if they
  exist, and discrepancies, that they may be recon-
  ciled.

  But much of this criticism has been thoroughly can-
  did and reverent, even conservative in its temper
  and purpose. It has not been unwilling to look
  at the facts ; but it has held toward the Bible a
  devout and sympathetic attitude ; it believes it to
  contain, as no other book in the world contains,
  the message of God to men ; and it has only
  sought to learn from the Bible itself how that
  message has been conveyed.

  It is this conservative criticism whose leadership will be followed
  in these studies. No conclusions respecting the
  history of these writings will be stated which are
  not accepted by conservative scholars. Never-
  theless it must be remembered that the results of
  conservative scholarship have been very imper-
  fectly reported to the laity of the churches.
  Many facts about the Bible are now known by
  intelligent ministers of which their congregations
  do not hear. An anxious and not unnatural feel-
  ing has prevailed that the faith of the people in
  the Bible would be shaken if the facts were
  known. The belief that the truth is the safest
  thing in the world, and that the things which
  cannot be shaken will remain after it is all told,
  has led to the preparation of this volume...pg3-4
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  WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1

  by Quentin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  am currently reading this book.

  would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.

  excerpts, printed by waking lion press.

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  Quentin

  What is the latest book on this information? What book is most up to date?....( Mat )

  There is NO book that is most up to date. Soon as it is hot of the presses along comes another. The serious scholar will go back as far as they can to find sources. Even to a book writtin in say, oh, 1891. The best writer's of fiction, or non-fiction follow this pattern. Research is the foundation on which a book is written.

  I have two books about Land Surveying and Mapping. One written, published in the late 1600s, a re- production of course. The other, about mapping and surveying, published in the 1930s, it's an original. Both books can be used by the average person adept in basic math, and as a guide that person could survey a parcel of land as well as any moderen Land Surveyor. May take them longer time wise, but they can do it.

  The walk through is impeccable for its sobriety, calm and reasoned tone and the common sensical charcter of the logic. Study of this will repay the reader many times over....( Terry ) Couldn't have said it better.
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  Struggling

  by anniegirl76 in

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  i have been df-ed for almost 9 years.

  just out of curiosity, has anyone decided to find another religion or belief after being jw?

  i struggle with my feelings, my mom and brother, aunt, cousins are all jw.

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  Quentin

  Anniegril sometime today I am going to send you a PM. PMs are a great way to discuss things you may feel uncomfortable posting to a public board. Check yours later today.
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  What are some of the funniest things you've seen during a prayer, and you could'nt laugh out loud?

  by african GB Member in

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  We had a deaf couple who attened the kh from time to time. The brother was a notorious farter, anytime, any place, I mean the kind that peeled paint from the wall, don't remeber their names, Terry might. Anyway when he let one go you would get trampled in the stamped to get away. One night at the end of the service meeting prayer he blasted a long honking one. No joke, there were more than one Oh my God's while at least 60 people stepped all over one another to shift to the other side of the hall.
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  Trading a real sense of LIFE and DEATH for the Watchtower metaphors

  by Terry in

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  the saddest of all the sad things my eyes have beheld was this one sunny day on a grassy green knoll that led up to an outstretched oak tree beneath which was a tiny coffin with a little red balloon tied on, dizzily dancing in the gusts of summer wind.

  the poignancy of that red balloon wrenched my heart with the ugly beauty of it all.

  such a small coffin!

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  "... I think this is why a great many Jehovah's Witnesses lead double lives. Neither of those two lives are genuine."...(Terry )

  Yes, that's why a jw, alone, or in a group who gets far, far away from any jw's they know will go nuts, do all sorts of non jw things. I remember running into Johnny once in Dallas. We were both waiting for the movie theater to open. After intense, but subtle questions to me he relaxed. He was going to see "Saturday Night Fever". Something he could not do anywhere NEAR his home, or the town in which he lived. I believe at the time he was an elder. Double lives, much the same as some Church goers sin all week then make up for it on Sunday, God's grace. A jw makes up for it by being a stuanch meeting attender and getting their monthly qouta.
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  WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1

  by Quentin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  am currently reading this book.

  would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.

  excerpts, printed by waking lion press.

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  Quentin

  Complete title "WHO WROTE THE BIBLE, A Book For The People" meant to put that in the topic heading....
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  Whose "mouthpiece" was Pastor Russell: Jehovah's or the Adventists??

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  either charles taze russell obtained his ideas from jehovah or he didn't.. if russell didn't get them from jehovah---from where?.

  let's take a survey of the facts about william miller and subsequent adventist teachings.. then, we can ask this question again!.

  when william miller (baptist farmer turned theologian) predicted the 2nd coming of christ in 1843/44 a large segment of america's population believed along with him.. miller was invited to preach in church after church.

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  Wonder how much of Russell's wife's ideas and belives were infulinced by Ellen White? Russell became his OWN mouthpiece with help from his wife.
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  WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1

  by Quentin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  am currently reading this book.

  would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.

  excerpts, printed by waking lion press.

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  Quentin

  Am currently reading this book. Would like to share 

  some excerpts from same.

  Take note Mr. Gladden is objective in his wrting.

  See Wikipedia for Gladden bio.

  EXCERPTS, printed by Waking Lion Press
  THE aim of this volume is to put into compact
  and popular form, for the benefit of intelligent
  readers, the principal facts upon which scholars
  are now generally agreed concerning the literary
  history of the Bible. The doctrines taught in
  the Bible will not be discussed ; its claims to a
  supernatural origin will not be the principal mat
  ter of inquiry ; the book will concern itself chiefly
  with those purely natural and human agencies
  which have been employed in writing, transcrib
  ing, editing, preserving, transmitting, translating,
  and publishing the Bible.
  The writer of this book has no difficulty in be
  lieving that the Bible contains supernatural ele
  ments. He is ready to affirm that other than
  natural forces have been employed in producing
  it. It is to these superhuman elements in it that
  reference and appeal are most frequently made.
  But the Bible has a natural history also.
   It was written as other books are writ-
  ten, and it was preserved and transmitted as
  other books are preserved and transmitted. It
  did not come into being in any such marvelous
  way as that in which Joseph Smith's; Book of
  Mormon...
  Concerning the books of the Bible no such aston-
  ishing stories are told. Nevertheless some good
  people seem inclined to think that if such stories
  are not told, they might well be ; they imagine
  that the Bible must have originated in a manner
  purely miraculous ; and though they know very
  little about its origin, they conceive of it as a book
  that was written in heaven in the English tongue,
  divided there into chapters and verses, with head
  lines and reference marks, printed in small pica,
  bound in calf, and sent down to earth by angels
  in its present form. What I desire to show is,
  that the work of putting the Bible into its pres-
  ent form was not done in heaven, but on earth ;
  that it was not done by angels, but by men ; that
  it was not done all at once, but a little at a time,
  the work of preparing and perfecting it extending
  over several centuries, and employing the labors
  of many men in different lands and long-divided
  generations. And this history of the Bible as a
  book, and of the natural and human agencies em-
  ployed in producing it, will prove, I trust, of much
  interest to those who care to study it......pg. 2-3
  
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  Is this a forum for JW issues or a poorly designed political and celebrity site?

  by Band on the Run in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it appears to me that even in the few months that i have been here there is less and less emphasis on jehovah's witnesses and anything remotely related to jws and more very poor posts about politics, foreign affairs and celebrities.

  i can't omit the juvenile sex ones, which i find lacking in erotic nature.

  it seems the 6th grade boys are meeting in the locker room.. the posts that involve jws have a very different tone from the drivel posted on others.

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  Quentin

  I value education....we all do.... I value social clubs. NY, Paris and San Francisco are my preferred cities. This does not make me a snob..... so, you go places, no need to poke us in the eye with it.... Reverse snobbery exists and I will not dumb down....who asked you too?..... Liking the above things does not mean I do not have respect for those with other gifts.....than show respect, there are other lawyers on this board as well, theydon't rub our noses in it.

  Here's an observation for you. When a person comes to this board constantly reminding others of their GRAND accomplishments some begain to doubt their claims. Such as; are you really a lawyer, are your accomplisments valid?

  Stick around, loosen up, have some fun, enjoy the ride.
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  What was your "aha" moment....

  by botchtowersociety in

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  2. friends

  ....that made you decide to leave the botchtower society?

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  Read my bio, then guess what I decided.....