I loved not-at-homes!!! Go there, knock, no answer, leave 2 mag's and count the placements. I must have counded hundreds like this, and yes it was legal in the WT's eyes. Just another example of inflated numbers.
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Remember the not-at homes?
by Thegoodgirl inthat obituary post reminded me of those awful weekday mornings knocking on entire neighborhoods of not-at-homes.
i remember one particular neighborhood in florida where it was one big trailer park of "snowbirds" who would move back up north for the summer.
however, being the thorough jws that we were, we would knock on every single door, leaving magazines, etc, even if the awnings were down and it was obvious no one would be livng there for months.
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Just got my copy of In Search of Christian Freedom
by Goldminer inmy book came in last week and i picked it up on thursday.i was nowhere near as nervous as when i purchased crisis of conscience.so far i've read the first 2 chapters and i will definitely learn a lot from this book,it's a real gem of spiritual truths and christian freedom.. while i was in the christian bookstore picking up my book i took the time to order 2 more books.. -the gentile times reconsidered.
-combatting cult mind control.
i'm looking forward to reading those also.hopefully i can subtely share some of this material with my family members who are still deeply brainwashed by the wts.. goldminer
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GOLDMINER.....I just got finished reading it. I was hooked from the first few chapters on the court cases. Very good book, really lays out the doctrinal problems with JW beliefs. Enjoy your read!!!
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More on dates........
by jula71 in"but now we are in the end of this gospel age, and the kingdom is being established or set up.
our lord, the appointed king, is now present, since october 1874, a.d., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear; and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from april 1878 a.d." (studies in the scriptures, vol.
4, page 621)
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Thanks Alan!!. I've been trying to research all I can. Makes my exit a bit easier.
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"Blessings", Are they real?
by Dismembered inblessings defined:
auspiciousness, favor, smiles of fortune, good fortune, blessings, godsend, crowning mercy, goodness and mercy, good.
no doubt we've heard statements like,
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Qcmbr, JW's believe that Paul and the others did indeed heal. But, only because they did not have the whole Bible to aid them in the "ministry." We in modern times do, so we do not need to "perform signs" as proof as to the source of the message.
So instead we scare them into a "end of the world" scenario using a series of false dates. IMHO
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More on dates........
by jula71 in"but now we are in the end of this gospel age, and the kingdom is being established or set up.
our lord, the appointed king, is now present, since october 1874, a.d., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear; and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from april 1878 a.d." (studies in the scriptures, vol.
4, page 621)
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"But now we are in the end of this Gospel age, and the Kingdom is being established or set up. Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear; and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878 A.D." (Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. 4, page 621)
I have just learned about this 1874 date. Pretty interesting, Russell believed Jesus came in 1874 had was going to complete a 40 year "harvest" and will end with the great war in 1914. When that didn't happen, the change to 1914 as the start of the last days, which would run until 1925:
"Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection." Millions Now Living Will Never Die, page 89.
"The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914." The Watchtower 9/1/22, page 262.
"Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge." The Watchtower, page 106 4/1/23.
I find it truly amazing how these dates and references are buried by the "organization." I wonder how the Rank & File would react to learn of these dates, would there be a mass exodus, or would they just ignore it as "old light"?
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25-year-old elders and 18-year-old ministerial servants
by Gopher inat some point in the 1980's, a good number of younger men were appointed to the position of servants and elders in congregations, at least here in the midwestern usa.
before the 1980's, the required age for elders seemed to be 30, and for ministerial servants 20 (except in rare cases).
perhaps due to a lack of men who were "reaching out", the organization needed to "reach down" and pick out younger men to populate their hierarchy.
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Those of you/us still going, take a good look around the hall. The pool of "young talent" is almost dried up. I've seen now, any young "brother" with "zeal" is very quickly moved up the food chain. Last year I heard some in my family talking about that. In fact they said "the end" has to be near due to the lack of quality youth in the congregations.
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JW peer pressure
by ljwtiamb inthere seems to be a common theme going on in the jw community.
at the first sign of a possible committment, every jw rushes you (with guilt) to show that you are serious.then, at the first sign of trouble everyone wants you to shoulder your responsibilities.finally, they damn/shun you if you can't handle things or choose/decide to quit.. i've seen this scenario played out with: interested couples rushed to engagement.dating couple rushed into marriage.bible studies & young persons rushed into baptism.any jw with 'free' time (meaning non-wt activities) rushed into pioneer service.young pioneer brothers rushed into bethel.. have you seen the same in your areas?
can you think of other scenarios?
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I've seen this scenario played out with:
- Interested couples rushed to engagement.
- Dating couple rushed into marriage.
- Bible studies & young persons rushed into baptism.
- Any jw with 'free' time (meaning non-WT activities) rushed into pioneer service.
- Young pioneer brothers rushed into bethel.
Well, I have plenty of experience w/ 3 of those. I'll let you guys guess which ones.
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"Blessings", Are they real?
by Dismembered inblessings defined:
auspiciousness, favor, smiles of fortune, good fortune, blessings, godsend, crowning mercy, goodness and mercy, good.
no doubt we've heard statements like,
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I believe blessings are pretty much self-fulfilled. How many times have we heard, "if you are diligent in service you will be blessed"? How many of us, then, felt somewhat happy after service? Once a person is indoctrinated, in any religion, that planted though or perceived feeling will become a reality to that person.
<JULA of the "listened in Pysch class" class>
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Week of May 2, 2005 Service Meeting
by TheListener inhere is this week's service meeting schedule:.
song 148.
local announcements.
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Yaaaaa.....I hope for another "Beware of Apostates On-line" local needs talk......
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What's this thing about guys not wanting to neuter/spay their pets?
by TresHappy inaccording to yesterday's (may 1) article in parade magazine, one of the main causes of dogs biting is a male that's not neutered.
we have a beautiful golden retriever that is about 10 months old.
sometimes he's out of control and i want to neuter the dog but my husband has steadfastly refused.
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Have you ever seen a post-op dog, look up at you. With a tear in it's eye and ask you, "why, why?"