I know how guilt plays into it. I lost a friend to suicide because of guilt. But What I find interesting is the same ones that believe homosexuality is by choice or nurtured are the same ones that totally disqualify evolution. The same way God "made" man, homosexuals have to be made in their eyes. The thought that some things just happen escapes them.
jula71
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The Purple or the Pink Triangle? : My Choice, My Story
by dorayakii intheres an interesting thread here:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/92000/1.ashx and i thought i'd open up the discussion again in the guise of "coming-out" to jwd.
it's taken me about 5 hours to get the language and style of this post right.
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The Seven Deadly Sins
by Crumpet ini listened to this on the radio this morning as i scampered around trying to get ready for work and i thought it was excellent so i wanted to share it.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/programmes/thought/documents/t20050620.shtml.
"today is the start of social science week and to mark it the economic and social research council has published a report which links all kinds of current social ills to pride, anger, lust, avarice, gluttony, envy and sloth - in other words, the seven deadly sins.
the report finds the sin of pride in the persistence of sectarian prejudice in northern ireland, it sees anger in uncontrollable tantrums in children and road rage in adults, lust in the ever-rising number of people who think its ok to have more than one sexual partner, avarice in the mounting levels of executive pay, gluttony in binge drinking and also in the steady overconsumption of alcohol by the middle-aged, envy in spiralling personal debt and lastly, sloth, the apathy reflected in spectacularly low turn-outs at the last two general elections.
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jula71
That’s pretty interesting. Now that I’m exploring the world outside of the WT, I’m starting to see many "bible stories" and topics are creations of man written after the bible is said to be dated and in same cases before.
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WT Article: The Historical Development of Freedom of Speech
by Dragonlady76 inthe historical development.
of freedom of speech
"sex on the internet might actually be good for young people," time reported on her view.
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jula71
That is the normal trend of the WT, look out for yourself. Helping others in the process is just an unfortunate by-product. Here’s a side WT legal story for you. You know I’m still fading so I had endure a CO visit not to long ago. He gave a talk on the need and responsibility to knock on doors. Here is the part I thought you would enjoy. He said that right now Bethel is housing a huge legal department, MOST of which is working tirelessly working on preserving the legal right to knock on doors. All this time I thought they were fighting abuse cases………
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Do you "now" look for more reasons to dislike or hate the JW's?
by free2beme ini have noticed from reading over this site and from having contact with former witnesses in my personal life, that a lot of time is consumed in the beginning of your exit from the witnesses, with finding further reasons to hate or dislike the jehovah's witnesses.
with this i was wondering, is this done to give yourself more reason not to return or is it an expression of your freedom to find out what you want without borders.
from a pure psychological stand-point, i am prone to wonder if it is a means of feeding an inner anger to bring one a faults sense of security, when they are challenged from within to decide if what they are really dealing with is correct thinking or a path that is truly wrong.
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jula71
With me it's not really looking for reasons to dislike but rather reasons why it can't be truth. And what I've seen so far, I don't really have to look hard.
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the Faithful and Discreet Slave
by Evanescence in.
hi i have heard jehovah's witness mention "the faithful and discreet slave.".
evanescence
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jula71
In reality the use the story of the FDS is to put a mask on who really is in charge. I have heard a million times the FDS are directing the work and the GB are just “helpers”. Who else is buying that? Not to long ago, there was a thread about 2 anointed that were trying to be tracked down for a JC for apostasy. As I said, the FDS is only a façade.
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Explaining BORG belief about the UN
by Panda inhave you ever tried to explain about the united nations place in revelation as the beast?
i was explaining to a frind who had read that fundementalist christians hate the un.
well i made an attempt and she said "say, what?
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jula71
Well, the Wild Beast is the total of the world governments all of them and the UN was the “image” of the wild beast. It has the appearance of the wild beast but it’s supposed to be different and it’s own entity. But, that’s where it gets all screwy. I don’t believe the original Wild Beast is mentioned again. But the UN is the image of the wild beast to which the original wild beast “breathed life into,” as mentioned in Rev 13:15. That’s the WT interpretation. I’m sure it can be interpreted a million ways, which is why I’ve lost faith in the bible. You would think a god that wants all to live would have made his path a bit clearer.
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THIS IS IT!!! EARTHQUAKES!!!
by jula71 ini have to laugh, just heard from 2 dub friends that proceeded to tell me this is a sign.
california has had 4 earthquakes in the last 3 days.
so all of you still on the fence.straighten upcant be long now.
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jula71
she sounded even more culty than usual. she said something about the "great new magazines" and also how many prophecies had been fulfilled lately.
Your mom and mine should hook up. Mine is always telling me how strong the message is getting........she must have the whole "millions now living will NEVER die" and the "religion is a snare" campaigns.......
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THIS IS IT!!! EARTHQUAKES!!!
by jula71 ini have to laugh, just heard from 2 dub friends that proceeded to tell me this is a sign.
california has had 4 earthquakes in the last 3 days.
so all of you still on the fence.straighten upcant be long now.
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jula71
It's just nuts..looking for anything...grasping at straws....
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THIS IS IT!!! EARTHQUAKES!!!
by jula71 ini have to laugh, just heard from 2 dub friends that proceeded to tell me this is a sign.
california has had 4 earthquakes in the last 3 days.
so all of you still on the fence.straighten upcant be long now.
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jula71
I have to laugh, just heard from 2 dub friends that proceeded to tell me this is a sign. California has had 4 earthquakes in the last 3 days. So all of you still on the fence….straighten up…can’t be long now. Just hope my apostate ways didn’t spoil my chances for the "New Order."
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DA used to be used for unbaptized DFing
by rebel8 indoes anyone remember this, or was it just a local thing?
all the time i've spent on these boards, i've never heard anyone mention it.
just curious.. when an unbaptized publisher was in a situation "warranting" dfing, they would announce from the platform that the person had been dad.
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jula71
Oh, this one I know about. In the mid-80’s before I got baptized I got hauled before a JC for smoking. I then got promptly announced from the platform as “bad association” and should treated as if I was DF’d. All that was after I pretty much begged for help in the JC being truly sorry and feeling guilty, but that is a story for another thread.