Posts by Twitch

If god includes everything and we do not know everything, then we cannot know god. This is as much proof of god as it is of anything we can imagine, and that is not proof.

I think the best "argument" for god is still an emotional one. This alone has stood the test of time, and for better or worse, continues. That there seems an instrinsic need for answers to the big questions is without question. The question really is, what answer suits the questioner?

It really boils down to semantics. this god thing. A personal god or impersonal force? God who created everything physical? God who favored the Israelites? God who favored other seekers? God who is love? God who speaks to each of us?

So far, his voice is interpreted by a few and heard by a multitude. God is popular, no doubt. This cannot be denied. Funny thing is, those who disagree on the same message call each other false. This is telling IMO.

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this site sucks! its just a buncha athiest on soap boxes.

by crossquestions6995 in

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friends

this site is not a healthy forum for discussion or healing.

its an arena for jaded athiests to bash anything christian or god related.

yes, i know the jw's lied to us about god and the truth.

Twitch

Sometimes I try to do stream of consciousness.

Really? Never would've guessed...;)

Personally, I like the writing style.

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Atheists, what is the best argument FOR God?

by bohm in

there are no convincing arguments for god, but some are worse than others.

i thought it would be interesting to see what people consider the best (of the bad) arguments for god?.

in my oppinion it is the fine-tuning argument from cosmology.

Twitch

If god didn't create anything, then nothing would exist to call him god, thus he couldn't be god, so it was inevitable and always was :P

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Atheists know more about the bible!

by Comatose in

a newly minted atheist, she uses her youversion bible app to try to persuade people away from the christianity she grew up in.. .

i know of a lot of atheists who have come to their nonbelief by actually reading the bible rather than just the fluffy stories they choose to tell you about in church, she said.

reading the full story with all its contradictions and violence and sexism, it should make you think, is this really what i believe in?

Twitch

The bible is just a collection of ancient beliefs and customs with some ancient bits of wisdom thrown in here and there, but also some inaccuracy, impossbilities and some downright nasty shite. Word of god? According to some, but not the only.

The path to enlightenment and peace has not been found exclusively by it's adherents alone. All religions have the same ultimate goal and beliefs all look for the same answers. Proof of this exists all around and is undeniable; there is more than one spiritual path. Realizing this is the first step in my opinion.

In fact, if the philisophical idea of god is indeed sublime and universal, it exists within all those who seek and the path by which one travels doesn't matter, since the goal is the same. For instance, is the catholic's experience and belief any less credible or real on a personal level than a protestant, or an evangelical or perhaps even a charismatic? What about the hindu, buddhist or muslim? How can one believer say that other beliefs about god are wrong?

The fact is there have been and continue to be ideas and beliefs about the ultimate questions that are as varied and diverse as there are people. Interpretation and subjective experience has and continues to rule the nature of beliefs and worldview. No conclusive, absolute message that is universally agreed upon has ever been received. Fact.

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Do You Believe Gods name is Jehovah and why?

by sarahsmile in

many internet sites claiming that god's names is jehovah.. do you believe it is the name of god?.

Twitch

God has had and continues to have many names

If you need to know, go with one that makes sense to you

Be wary of those who would have you believe their name/version is the "right" one.

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Lady Lee is Awesome

by Scott77 in

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hi lady,.

i have great admiration and respect for your wisdom, courage, insight, fighting spirit and advocacy on behalf of abused ex-jws.

to me, you are like a lady with 'the mind of steel' if you are reading this thread, this is a tribute to your oustanding work on behalf of the disfranchised.

Twitch

I'll second that, on both counts

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A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian

by cofty in

a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.

peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.

- amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.

Twitch

People with an atheistic ideology can be very dominating and arrogant.

People with a theistic ideology can be very dominating and arrogant.

Is this counter point valid?