i have a question that i'd like to get feedback for:
how does a person get their finances in order after leaving the dubs?
i've left the b'organization with my family intact.
Check out trades like plumbing. You might find a small firm willing to take somebody a little older but more responsible and motivated (you just need to sell yourself aong with a little luck in timing). You can get a great income in trades without the huge investment of University or colleges. One of my sibs did this and he makes more than us "smart" ones who've been downsized and starting over (Commerce and IT grads).
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just a wee update on my current tentative drawing out of my family.
i sent a letter, which not coincidentally was timed to arrive on fathers day weekend just gone.
its the first letter i've sent in 8 years to my family and whilst i was careful to avoid any mention of religion i did talk about how happy i was generally and mentioned how nice it is that i see so much of my inlaws who despite living 800 miles away make regular visit to us at least 3 or 4 times a year.
Good on ya Crumpet! Stick with it and keep chipping away as Delilah said... you never know.
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wow, what's going on here?
i look at all the new folk here that seem to have joined in the past 2 months and are posters who are under 100 posts and i gotta wonder why.. has something happened in dubland recently to cause a lot of folk to reach out?
if you are new here at jwd, how did you find us?
If we're counting from January than that would also include me although I've moved up to the exalted level of Junior! I did check out a few sites in the early nineties out of curiousity but had already made my decision before then (during my University years before the internet exploded unto the scene). This is the first time I've really had an opportunity to check into the org.'s history and I now appreciate why they fear the internet so much.
This board was recommended to me my a sibling and I've been hanging around ever since learning about the range of people's experiences in the org and in leaving it. I used to be rather dismissive of people on message boards but the general quality of most people here has changed that forever.
All of my sibs still deal with the "after effects" to varying degrees and I'm really impressed with the kindness and love willingly offered to anybody needing it. We're a pretty unique club of people!
I am surprised that there aren't more teenagers (especially young JW's) on the board though. Do we need to become more "hip"?
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yes, i live in hell, otherwise known as my bedroom.
outside it is 17 degrees c, inside my room it is a humid 30 degrees c. my windows are open and the fan is blowing, but this room won't cool down.
guh, just think how bad its going to be when summer comes out in full blast.
Stop yer whinin'. Ya could be baking here in Toronto with the rest of us sinners all summer.
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you know the people who adopt you when you are no longer a jw?
the ones who accept you just because you are you and do not laugh too hard that you were once one of the jw's.
well bettie was mine.
Wow. Now that's a grandma you can be proud of! (and afraid of too!)
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i will be very brief on my introduction as i need to get straight to the point.
i was raised in the 'truth' from birth.
i got baptized at 16 (elder dad hassled me) and managed to do the 'slow fade' at 18 (it helped that i moved 50 miles away from home).
Welcome Muse! Please accept my best wishes for a happy outcome for your family. I won't bother adding to the already copious supply of good, actionable advice provided by the earlier posters. Just remember that you'll be there for your dad, even if it means "rubbing elbows" with a bunch of JW's for a short time - this is not the time for fighting.
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i'm new too posting here but i've been lurking since the summer.
how i came across this site?
a brother at one of them conventions warned us about 'sites on the internet that can threaten our faith' and i was like "psh if this is the truth, what information could possibly do that?
Welcome to the forum. I think the org. hierarchy are going to have their hands full trying to keep your techno-savvy generation under control. I know most of my peers back in the early 80's would have been checking this stuff out if the 'net had been available to us!
I remember thinking "do they think I'm that stupid and gullible?"
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a little background........ been fading for more than a year now.
i think i have done a good job of transitioning out of the borg.
i am now comfortable with many of the taboos i was raised to fear.
I try to give all people I meet the "benefit of the doubt". I had a lot of "remedial" soclial work during my first years "out" but I still use Jesus as a human interaction model (some habits die hard) and I'll take the first injury on the chin (within reason untill someone shows their quality) rather than being preemptively dismissive.
There are a lot of high quality human beings out thee as well as lot of poor quality ones. You've probably heard the expression "people are shit" but I prefer to think that too many people have been conditioned to act "shitally"; but I'm a card carrying organizational behaviourist.
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most of you are ex-dubs, so what if world events proved that the jw's were right.
for instance, governments turning on religion, matthew 24th chapt events really increasing at an alarming rate, enough to make you think: " maybe they were right?
" if that happened, and the wts left the "door on the ark", so to speak, open for a little while, would you go back to the wts?
Nope.
I'd be willing to worship God if he proved His existence (even grovel!) but not with that outfit.
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how many of you felt superior as jw's because you had an elite level of knowledge that only the society could give you?
Not so much when I was a youngster but anytime somebody would start going on about their "christian faith" I'd mentally roll my eyes thinking I was a member of the "toughest" outfit there was (even after I left!).
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