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  I GOT A WONDERFUL REPLY TO MY DA LETTER!!!

  by Frog in

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  hi there friends, i'm just jumping out of my skin with an email i just received from my older sister in reponse to this letter that i posted to my family just last week http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/87881/1.ashx.

  this is the response i received just now;"hey babyi got your letter.

  i cant write very much now but i just wanted to let you know i received it and i was very moved.

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  Whiskeyjack

  Frog,

  Great news!

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  Interesting Chat with My Bro today

  by Oroborus21 in

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  ellis says:.

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  Very interesting. Thanks for posting this Eduardo. The GBS does seems to be using a lot more "wiggle room" in their public communications these days compared to my time!

  So one of the "Early First Signs" will be Hilary's nomination drive eh?

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  Were you good at this?

  by JH in

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  i bet many had their wives make it...... .

  when i joined the jw's, i didn't know how to make a tie knot, and still don't.

  i guess that if i tried, i'd look like this below.... .

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  Whiskeyjack

  I wish I had that chart when I was a kid! I think that's a Half-Winsdor knot (the one the old man taught me, still classier than the Four-in-Hand more commonly used today. If my tie wasn't perfect it would bug me the entire time I had it on!

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  The next step in chipping away at Mr.elder relative

  by SeymourButts in

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  so, as you know, last weekend i provided some info to an elder relative of mine regarding 607. .

  i am going to give him a couple weeks to research everything i brought up to him.

  i don't expect him to fully accept what i said, but there is no doubt that there will be some questions in his head as to why things don't add up.

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  Good luck Seymour!

  I don't think you'll make any progress despite having it all spread out for him but I would recommend that you continually and repeatedly appeal to his sense of intellectual honesty and fairness (what the JW's at least preach to people when examining their faith's teachings). Do this over and over when he tries to be illogical or use emotional appeals or shows disdain for the basic thinking responsibility that every person has. Make him practice what he's supposed to be preaching!

  W. (a tape recording might be useful for later review)
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  The point here is- I have no point.

  by becks in

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  i am hoping there are others of you that have the same feelings as my self and can help me to move on from them!.

  currently i am in therapy due to different things that have happened in my life (not just to do with the witnesses!!

  ) and i thought it would be good to share my last session with you.. as a jw you are given your goal in life- your point.

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  Whiskeyjack

  Hi Becks,

  Welcome to the forum. My siblings and I still confront this "problem" years later. The idea of "purpose" in life is the org.'s main selling point IMO. We're still trying to learn about ourselves but we're very unambitious in regards to "worldy pursuits". This seems to be a very prevalent problem for most raised in the org. who leave (didn't want to be a double-lifer myself!). You're very lucky to have some quality friends around you (many leave with no support) since one's relationships with other people is the main determinant in a "successful" life.

  I'm an agnostic now with Humanist leanings (I think humans are the coolest things in the Universe) as this philosophy is primarily concerned with human development as a collective entity. I think we humans must make our world better on our own through our interactions with others.

  You'll find a lot of great information and debate on this board.

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  the real purpose of field service

  by what_Truth? in

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  i've been racking this around my brain for a minute now.

  you've got people puttin in an average of 10 hours a month, giving away countless publications, and still only converting one or two families every 20 years or so.

  this raises an obvious question, "if the door to door ministry doesn't bring in converts why do it?

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  I think its now "make-busy" work. When coupled with the meeting and personal study requirements/suggestions, who's got time for mischief or independent thinking? It's like the army where officers and noncoms will make work for the troops to keep'em too busy (idle hands...). The ineffectualness of the activity is now secondary to the real utility this basic tool of organizational control (especially in light of the "bogus" nature of the reported efforts/accomplishments).

  This does seem strange given the org.'s embrace of technology in the past (radio for example) but we all understand why the internet hasn't been embraced as a tool for communication - you have to prove the veracity of your spiels!

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  New here...

  by smorgle in

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  hello everyone... this is my first post.

  i stumbled upon this board a few hours ago, so i trolled for a bit and i like the discussions..

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  Whiskeyjack

  Welcome to forum Smorgle!

  There is a broad spectrum of new and developing "belief systems" among the members so you'll find a lot of quality debate.I was surprised at how much I didn't know about my old organization (left the org. years ago, joined the board a couple of months ago).

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  What happens after.......

  by Survive1999 in

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  so i'm interested for all you folks that have come out of the watch tower society, are any of you still religious, believe in god or the bible?

  interestingly enough, i picked up a origianl copy of "studies in the scriptures" published 1915 with reprinted tracts in the back that talk about armegedon in 1914. big funny!

  i keep it handy near the front door.

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  Welcome to the board Survivor'99.

  I'd classify myself as a "hopeful agnostic" (grew up in the org.). I no longer believe in the bible as the "literal" word of any entity but more as a collection of literature and myths. I prefer the idea of an all-powerful God interested in me personally but this is a mystery mankind has yet to figure out (will science provide "the" answer one day?). It would take some pretty impressive "miracles" to sell me now.

  Now I try to reconcile myself to the same doubts that plague "worldy" folks about existence and resolve to learn a little bit about the Universe each day.

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  Evidence for evolution, Installment 3b: Neandertals and Mitochondrial DNA

  by seattleniceguy in

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  this is a continuation of last week's installment in my evidence for evolution series.

  since this post builds directly on concepts discussed last week, i highly recommend that you read last week's thread carefully before looking at this one.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/87781/1.ashx.

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  Almost missed this class!

  Thanks again, W.
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  hi I'm new

  by delilah in

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  my friend mary told me about this site.

  she told me how much she enjoyed it, so i've finally taken the baptismal plunge, and here i am.

  now mary can count this as a bible study.

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  Whiskeyjack

  Welcome to the forum D!

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