Yes. I was baptized in 1970. Very different questions then.
And I totally get the difficulty as we attempt to move on. A whole lot of history there.
Cate
wow.
it was 45 years ago yesterday that i was baptized a jw.
back when you weren't baptized to an organization.. i was 11. went to a circuit assembly in massachusetts with another jw family (circuit ma #3 at the time), and honest to god, we stayed at the pioneer motel!.
Yes. I was baptized in 1970. Very different questions then.
And I totally get the difficulty as we attempt to move on. A whole lot of history there.
Cate
some of my friends claim that growing up as witnesses was a normal experience, in the sense that they did not miss celebrating hollidays or associating with wordly people.
these friends are witnesses in good standing, therefore, i doubt their sincerity and feel that they just do not want to go agaist the party line.
in my case, since i always had the desire to participate in extracurricular activities in school (and did when i could), always felt actracted to politics and art, it was very hard.
Oh my goodness yes! I was shy to begin with. Then I had the misfortune of being the strange girl who didn't celebrate anything and wouldn't associate with anyone in a grade school and middle school with several bullies. And I was the perfect target. All I wanted out of life was to be invisible. I spent my school years sitting in the back corner, whenever possible, and never participating unless absolutely necessary, in the hope that no one would notice me. That leaves a mark.
Cate
i don't get it.. can anyone explain it to me?.
We were taught that to lack trust in or question the GB was the same as lacking trust in or questioning God. And if we did that, we would lose out on everlasting life. So any doubts were pushed down deep and we attempted to ignore them. I've seen a bit of panic in the eyes of one person I've tried to talk to. I think it's because, deep down, she has doubts too. Why feel panic if you are fully convinced of something?
Cate
in words it is one thing.
in practice it is quite different.. so in what ways has the wts made the load "lighter"?.
well the new book study arrangement is the newest one but there have been so many more.
How about the brochure on how to dress when visiting headquarters so we don't have to try to figure it out on our own?
Cate
so tonight the congregation discussed the front page of the october km -the new meeting schedule.
straight away it was emphasized it was not because of high gas prices that the meetings were being reduced.
it was pointed out that in parts of the world the brothers do not have cars so it was not high gas prices.
so...does anyone say, "If it's not the real reason...why did they say it?"
Cate
there were some witnesses that loved taking notes for every meeting.
whatever you would say, the note takers were busy as a bee writing down every word.
especially if you went out of town to give a talk, certain ones (only sisters) would take their note taking very very seriously.. another thing that used to get to me was when you'd see the same people every assembly on the platform giving a talk or being in a part.
The opening talk at the convention that told us what we were GOING to hear. The final talk that told us what we HAD heard. And the concluding prayer that summed it all up again in case God hadn't been paying attention.
Cate
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Billy that was excellent. I love a well-written rant! And the aluminum foil hat made me laugh out loud.
This article is very like the drama at the last district assembly I attended. It ended and my husband and I looked at each other and said, "What?" Our reaction was the same as yours: Perhaps the message is "never trust an old prophet!" Ha!
Cate
for me, i had doubts from the beginning.
however, my 1st major doubt came as i had it confirmed that other people felt like i did about certain big issues within the org.
there were many, i realised, that just knew things were not right.
In and Out, Back and Forth....first baptized at age 9 in 1956. Was the "perfect" example other parents wanted their children to be. Played piano at KH (before recorded music) at age 10 -- all meetings, funerals and weddings. "Great Legacy" started by Grandmother who was present at Cedar Point, swept by the tide, friends, activities, Mother was Book Study Conductor in our home (yes!!! hard to believe - not enough brothers) wore a hat in our living room while she conducted the BS. Dad never in truth. Years of being active and inactive as adult. Disfellowshipped, then reinstated. Doubts started a few years back. Can't talk to anyone else about these doubts. This is a great forum for serious and meaningful discussion. Life changing experiences have brought me to this point. Grandson's "story" published in Awake! magazine. Wow, can't believe I am posting this.
Gram: I'll bet your story is fascinating. Can you post it?
Respectfully, Cate
for me it was that god is killing billions of people just to prove a point.
what about you?
Another less emotional one is: Accepting blood fractions but not contributing to the blood supply.
And...Wouldn't accepting blood fractions be encouraging someone else to break God's law (in order to supply the blood that will be divided)?
Cate
for me it was that god is killing billions of people just to prove a point.
what about you?
Birthdays: Especially after the Awake article on allowing Pinatas at parties.
Blood: Once they started allowing all the fractions.
Cross vs Stake: Once I realized it may well have been a cross.
This Generation: I had explained for 30 years that this generation who would not pass away meant those born in 1914 (after being changed from those old enough to understand). We could absolutely prove it! Then in 1995, I had to absolutely prove something completely different. Which I couldn't
Cate