google this:
site:jw_dot_org shunned
edit - obviously use the proper domain name and not the underscores :-)
so ofs was at the wt this morning, and on par.
14 the question was, "what trust can a faithful christian whose relative is disfellowshipped have?".
after awhile when no one else raised their hands ofs did, and was called on.. ofs commented, "one of jw can have the trust that god will lovingly give them the ability to uphold the disfellowshipping arrangement by totally shunning family members.".
google this:
site:jw_dot_org shunned
edit - obviously use the proper domain name and not the underscores :-)
this is from the last talk of the convention ......... clip 1:30 minutes longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrej8tlyiso&feature=youtu.be.
"unless you're a toddler"
... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
the wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.
here is the ruling:.
http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.
what the Watchtower says:
"Child abuse is abhorrent.”
what the Watchtower does:
19. The period of delay in making the application to the Tribunal is one of over six months. I consider that this to be a significant and serious period of delay, especially in the context of the nature of the Respondent’s concerns in this case. I give weight to the fact that the Respondent’s inquiry and Production Order relate to safeguarding matters which could, as I have noted above, logically concern on-going risks to people who are still children.
They have planned a litigation strategy which a judge states involves ongoing risk to children.
is it an outside source?.
an inside job?
maybe the younger gb "helpers"?.
If they abandon shunning and permit whole blood transfusions it's significant
The rest is just window dressing and a reminder who is holding the leash.
we are hearing reports of this promotion of the website by the jw and it seems to be a resource for them to dodge questions of their faith, when they don't have or want to give an answer to a question they direct the house holder to the organization/corporation's website to get the answer as if it really existed.there.. i think soon they are going to drop the door to door work all together as completely unprofitable, i mean their donation arrangement is a complete flop and has cost them i'm sure so they are in the process of shipping as many as they can into building up real estate for the corporation, because that is where the money is right now.. the whole jw.org is just a complete failure as a source of good information and only scare away people except the most vulnerable/gullible.. .
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"wait, you are suggesting I entrust my spiritual welfare to a...website....????? really?"
"can I ask why you think that makes sense? <in your own words>"
"it is perfectly apparent that god is monstrous, utterly monstrous, and deserves no respect whatsoever.
the moment you banish him, your life become purer, simpler, cleaner; more worth living in my opinion.".
....
success has many parents, Kate. Failure is an orphan.
Perhaps that explains why this site is so successful :-)
im not an attorney and i could not record the hearing, so please forgive me if i make mistakes in relating what i remember of the oral argument hearing for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society on january 14, 2015 and the length of this post.. i arrived at the civic center/union plaza in san francisco, ca about 7:30. the area is very nice with a few homeless people sleeping in the park across from the courthouse.
it took me about 10 minutes to find the clerks office for the court on the first floor, which opened at 8:00.. once the clerks office opened, the two clerks who i talked with were very polite and helpful.
the arguments for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society were scheduled 5th out of (i think) 8. while i was in the office a cameraman and another person for nbc arrived asking about the hearing for candace contis case.. the courtroom for the 1st appellate court is on the 4th floor and takes up most of that floor.
By and large its futile for armchair quarterbacks (on either side) to second-guess the judicial system.
Most times the judge(s) have decided who deserves to win and will construct their judgment accordingly.
please don't laugh - i just threw this together and didn't bother making a script first so probably repeat myself or make no sense at all at times.. hopefully it will demonstrate a few tips for using the site more effectively.. i'll do one on signing up and logging in next and also how to edit, reply etc.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx5d3ct0y50.
i know that logging in has been a problem for some.
i hardly post any more.
i figured there would be more activity than this.
simon - maybe consider doing a video cap of yourself walking through the various features and how to best use the site?