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24Uk bethel "university campus but nicer"
by snare&racket innew essex bethel plans include.... "its accommodation, predominantly for young members, would resemble a university campus but "nicer".
erghhhh..... don't become a lawyer or an engineer, a doctor or a nurse or a teacher.... come spend 3 years working for us at our factory for free.
look we have wifi...(no porn!).
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Yearbook Chart Re-posted - Math explained. Top 7 countries account for 50% growth
by Westenddave insorted from high to low.
net increase in publishers2013 ave. pubs2012 ave. pubsincrease/ decrease in publishersincrease in pubs cumulative.
% increase cumulative columnabcde =a-b mexico (g-31)777,429749,58527,84427,84417.47%legend united states of america (e-32)1,167,7231,156,15011,57339,41724.73%red: latin/spanish landscongo, dem.
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besty
Britain Branch must be delighted with their +0.5% increase despite a 2% share of total publishers...
would be interesting to run that comparison for all countries to see who is under and over performing....
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Yearbook Chart Re-posted - Math explained. Top 7 countries account for 50% growth
by Westenddave insorted from high to low.
net increase in publishers2013 ave. pubs2012 ave. pubsincrease/ decrease in publishersincrease in pubs cumulative.
% increase cumulative columnabcde =a-b mexico (g-31)777,429749,58527,84427,84417.47%legend united states of america (e-32)1,167,7231,156,15011,57339,41724.73%red: latin/spanish landscongo, dem.
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besty
this is discussed in detail at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php
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Plymouth Brethren have their application for Charitable Status accepted - finally.
by besty inhttp://www.thirdsector.co.uk/go/news/article/1226627/charity-commission-will-accept-plymouth-brethren-application-charitable-status/.
the regulator says the preston down trust, whose initial application was rejected in 2012, has agreed to change its governing documentsthe charity commission has said it will accept an application for charitable status from the preston down trust, a devon-based plymouth brethren congregation.. the regulator announced today that it would accept an application from the trust, which adheres to a doctrine of separation that limits members contact with the outside world, after it agreed to change its governing documents.. the commission said the trust had agreed to amend its trust documents by entering into a deed of variation, which sets out, in a manner that is binding on trustees, the churchs core religious doctrines and practices.. it signals an end to a dispute dating back to february 2009, when the trust first made an application for charitable status.. a draft deed of variation, published by the commission, includes directions on issues such as how disciplinary matters should be dealt with among members.
it also says meeting halls should display prominent details about how non-members can attend services.. the commissions decision document says that it has heard allegations of harsh disciplinary practices for minor transgressions and people being cut off from the community.. it says there had been claims that threats of legal action had been made against people who spoke out against the brethren and those who leave "are ostracised and consequently treated differently from other members of the public".. in responding to these allegations, the commission said the plymouth brethren christian church had told it some were of an historic nature but it did acknowledge "past mistakes in relation to its disciplinary practices".. the regulator said the trust had "demonstrated a willingness to make amends and to do what it could as a christian organisation to ensure, as far as it was consistent with its religious beliefs, it would act with christian compassion in the future", particularly in respect of its disciplinary practices and in its relations with former members of the brethren.
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besty
some commentary on the decision by an activist, Laurie Moffitt
http://laurencemoffitt.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-sheer-insanity-of-pbcc.html
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Plymouth Brethren have their application for Charitable Status accepted - finally.
by besty inhttp://www.thirdsector.co.uk/go/news/article/1226627/charity-commission-will-accept-plymouth-brethren-application-charitable-status/.
the regulator says the preston down trust, whose initial application was rejected in 2012, has agreed to change its governing documentsthe charity commission has said it will accept an application for charitable status from the preston down trust, a devon-based plymouth brethren congregation.. the regulator announced today that it would accept an application from the trust, which adheres to a doctrine of separation that limits members contact with the outside world, after it agreed to change its governing documents.. the commission said the trust had agreed to amend its trust documents by entering into a deed of variation, which sets out, in a manner that is binding on trustees, the churchs core religious doctrines and practices.. it signals an end to a dispute dating back to february 2009, when the trust first made an application for charitable status.. a draft deed of variation, published by the commission, includes directions on issues such as how disciplinary matters should be dealt with among members.
it also says meeting halls should display prominent details about how non-members can attend services.. the commissions decision document says that it has heard allegations of harsh disciplinary practices for minor transgressions and people being cut off from the community.. it says there had been claims that threats of legal action had been made against people who spoke out against the brethren and those who leave "are ostracised and consequently treated differently from other members of the public".. in responding to these allegations, the commission said the plymouth brethren christian church had told it some were of an historic nature but it did acknowledge "past mistakes in relation to its disciplinary practices".. the regulator said the trust had "demonstrated a willingness to make amends and to do what it could as a christian organisation to ensure, as far as it was consistent with its religious beliefs, it would act with christian compassion in the future", particularly in respect of its disciplinary practices and in its relations with former members of the brethren.
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The regulator says the Preston Down Trust, whose initial application was rejected in 2012, has agreed to change its governing documents
The Charity Commission has said it will accept an application for charitable status from the Preston Down Trust, a Devon-based Plymouth Brethren congregation.
The regulator announced today that it would accept an application from the trust, which adheres to a doctrine of separation that limits members’ contact with the outside world, after it agreed to change its governing documents.
The commission said the trust had agreed to amend its trust documents by entering into a deed of variation, which sets out, in a manner that is binding on trustees, the church’s core religious doctrines and practices.
It signals an end to a dispute dating back to February 2009, when the trust first made an application for charitable status.
A draft deed of variation, published by the commission, includes directions on issues such as how disciplinary matters should be dealt with among members. It also says meeting halls should display prominent details about how non-members can attend services.
The commission’s decision document says that it has heard allegations of harsh disciplinary practices for minor transgressions and people being cut off from the community.
It says there had been claims that threats of legal action had been made against people who spoke out against the Brethren and those who leave "are ostracised and consequently treated differently from other members of the public".
In responding to these allegations, the commission said the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church had told it some were of an historic nature but it did acknowledge "past mistakes in relation to its disciplinary practices".
The regulator said the trust had "demonstrated a willingness to make amends and to do what it could as a Christian organisation to ensure, as far as it was consistent with its religious beliefs, it would act with Christian compassion in the future", particularly in respect of its disciplinary practices and in its relations with former members of the Brethren.
Under a section called "compassion", the draft deed of variation sets out how that pastoral care should be provided "including but not limited to where fault occurs".
"No action should be taken in any way to treat vindictively, maliciously or unfairly persons whether within or outside the community, including those who were within the community and who are leaving or have left the community," it says.
"Every care should be taken to provide for and support the welfare and education of children and young persons within the community. Where persons seek to leave the community, reasonable assistance should be afforded to them in terms of support and/or financial assistance relating to employment or other matters, where they have been dependent on the community for that support."
It also says that "reasonable steps" should be taken to allow the continuation of family relationships where a family member has left the community, including providing access to family members, in particular children.
The commission rejected an initial application from the trust in June 2012 because the regulator was not satisfied that the trust had been established for the advancement of religion for public benefit.
The trust then appealed to the charity tribunal in July 2012, but the case, which has now been dropped, had been on hold since last February because of cost concerns.
William Shawcross, chair of the Charity Commission, said: "I am pleased that the PDT has agreed to adopt a new governing document and am confident that the organisation now qualifies for charitable status. This was a complex and sensitive case, which involved strong views and feelings on both sides of the argument. I am grateful to all those who shared information with us, and for their patience in awaiting today’s decision.
"I hope that the organisation’s new explicit focus on compassion and forgiveness will help allay the concerns of people who remain uncomfortable with some of the practices of the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church."
Gerry Devenish, a member of the Preston Down Trust, said it had been a complex case. "We’re relieved that the commission has made this decision after a thorough examination," he said. "It’s confirmed our place in the Christian church."
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Morris in Italy
by Achille inmorris in italy, january 5, 2014. http://forum.infotdgeova.it/viewtopic.php?p=281371#p281371.
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besty
And rude people who don't welcome new posters on JWN ....
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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besty
go on phizzy - take a crack at the OP now you have had a beer :-)
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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besty
"we don't know what we can't know" = it's a mystery
next.
nice try flamegrilled. pls keep posting on other topics - i like your style.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Scottish?
by RottenRiley inmy experience with jws, often they were very frugal and cheap, willing to use my car in field circus every weekend.
why are jehovah's witnesses so dense and obtuse when it comes to sharing costs and contributing?
has the topic of district convention 'tight-ass cheap-skating' jehovah's witnesses been talked about?
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besty
you're scottish as much as I'm english - pull the other one RottenRiley...
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2014 Yearbook Stats - 7 Countries account for > 50% growth
by Westenddave ini thought i'd share the 2014 yearbook stats.
i converted the file to excel format & sorted the increase in publisher's column from largest to smallest.
as i suspected, the growth is limited to a very few # of "lands.
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besty
Before you make way too much fuzz over Slovakia - the figure is totally and utterly wrong!
keep up theoldhippie - 88JM already noted his own type earlier on in the thread