It really and truly is a miracle!!!
....Oh! you mean the smudge thing on the wall, not the one in the frame!?
If I stand on my head and squint, it could be a woman's coat...is that near enough to be a miracle?
jaffacake
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Our lady of the Underpass
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.cnn.com/2005/us/04/20/mary.underpass.ap/index.html.
some see virgin mary in underpass stain.
chicago, illinois (ap) -- a steady stream of the faithful and the curious, many carrying flowers and candles, have flocked to an expressway underpass for a view of a yellow and white stain on a concrete wall that some believe is an image of the virgin mary.. police have patrolled the emergency turnoff area under the kennedy expressway since monday as hundreds of people have walked down to see the image and the growing memorial of flowers and candles that surround it.
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Jws or adventists?
by melmac in.
expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
adventists or jws?
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jaffacake
Thanks Barry & Blondie for the links - interesting.
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Jws or adventists?
by melmac in.
expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
adventists or jws?
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jaffacake
Barry
I have not been a SDA since the 1970s but still have much love and affection for those I knew then. Thanks for the updated view. I'm trying to persuade my friend to visit a couple of churces with me, just to compare, before he gets baptised a JW.
Perhaps a SDA one would be a good idea. I might even recognise some old faces.
I'm surprised that many can't recognise the MASSIVE difference from Watchtower (I won't comment on origins and doctrine) in terms of how they treat people both inside and outside the congregation.
SDAs have a doctrine of Christian love, whereas JWs have an unChristian doctrine of hate. I have personal experience of both.
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jaffacake
Not in (yet!?)
To date I've only had 3 studies with a P.O.
Slow progress as the guy just doesn't know what to make of me.
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this might be a stupid question...but
by donald inthis might be an stupid question....but do most persons dislike the jws or is it all relgion...im not trying to be a smart a@#...but id like to know....donald
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jaffacake
There are all sorts of beliefs represented here. Personally I'm a bit mixed up but consider myself a Christian. The only thing I am completely certain about is that the Watchtower is incompatible with Christianity. This can be proved with nothing more than their own Bible and publications.
I have learned this in 6 months of study, all because loved ones are Jehovah's Witnesses and believe they are in the truth. I'm on this site only so one day I may be able to help them.
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What religion have you changed to now that no longer a witness?
by AK - Jeff ini know many have rejected the idea of organized religion.
i teeter on that myself.
but i have toyed with hooking to a little country church with some friendly people to associate with.
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jaffacake
Kilroy, I know what you mean, thanks for explaining. I have been agnostic with similar views to you about religion most of my adult life, but an open mind plus a study of science, atomic physics, quantum theory etc, have led me back to some form of Christianity and belief in God. I find the Bible inspiring but don't believe it should be understood literally.
I don't think much of many religions but I have a lot of time for the people in them.
I've enjoyed everyones posts, a special mention to Orange & Green for their contributions.
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Jws or adventists?
by melmac in.
expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
adventists or jws?
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DY
Yes, like no alcohol. The difference is however that they don't make you obey them as rules, it is a matter of conscience.
For me that's a huge difference. You don't have to obey or be disfellowshiped.
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At the Door
by AuntieJane ini think i was marked for a couple of yrs, but the jws are in our neighborhood these days.
i took a couple mags and gave my own little spiel (gently) a couple weeks ago.
i'm thinking next time...i will be prepared.
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jaffacake
Why do JWs react so negatively to the Lords Prayer?
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Jws or adventists?
by melmac in.
expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
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Forgive us our trespasses
The Worldwide Church of God, sponsor of the Plain Truth magazine, has changed its position on numerous long-held beliefs and practices during the past few years. We are acutely aware of the heavy legacy of our past.
Our flawed doctrinal understanding clouded the plain gospel of Jesus Christ and led to a variety of wrong conclusions and unscriptural practices. We have much to repent of and apologise for. We were judgemental and self righteous ? condemning other Christians, calling them ?so-called Christians? and labelling them ?deceived? and ?instruments of Satan?. We imposed on our members a works-oriented approach to Christian living. We required adherence to burdensome regulations of the Old Testament code. We exercised a strongly legalistic approach to church government.
Our former Old Covenant approach fostered attitudes of exclusivism and superiority rather than the new covenant teaching of brotherhood and unity.
We overemphasized predictive prophecy and prophetic speculation, minimising the true gospel of salvation through Jesus Christ.
These teachings and practices are a source of supreme regret. We are painfully mindful of the heartache and suffering that has resulted from them.
We?ve been wrong. There was never an intent to mislead anyone. We were so focused on what we thought we were doing for God that we didn?t recognize the spiritual path we were on. Intended or not, that path was not the Biblical one. As we look back, we ask ourselves how we could have been so wrong. Our hearts go out to all whom our teachings have misled in the Scriptures. We don?t minimise your spiritual disorientation and confusion. We earnestly desire your understanding and forgiveness.
We make no attempt to cover up the doctrinal and scriptural errors of our past. It is not our intention to merely paper over the cracks. We are looking our history squarely in the face and confronting the faults and sins we find. They will always remain a part of our history, serving as a perpetual reminder of the dangers of legalism.
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Jws or adventists?
by melmac in.
expanding on the topic about jws x mormons.... which one would you choose?
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Not all cults & religions are as bad as each other. Some actually own up when they recognise they have been wrong. When does a so called cult become a religion? An offshoot from seventh day adventists - a so called cult called the worldwide church of God, which was originally led by H Armstrong, published the following in the 1980s: Can you imagine WTS ever following this example? The article was headed forgive us our trespasses:
The Worldwide Church of God, sponsor of the Plain Truth magazine, has changed its position on numerous long-held beliefs and practices during the past few years.