so here comes patdp very soon.
it's not as bad as ipalfatn i & ii, but still its based on the idea of 607 and 1914.. how have any of you ex or current book study overseers handled this problem.
i'd like not to conduct but thats not really an option.
Hey IP
I was just thinking...if she "knows" how you feel and said she's not going to tell. Then it seems that she has some doubts herself. I think that this is a good thing.
My parents are still hard core JW's. They would have told on me the day they found out.
This might help...(you may already have read this)
hillary_step recommended in his own little way that i get the ball rolling on this subject.
so here goes: minimus and hillary are on the list.
Who is the meanest, nastiest poster? thread
fhn...what in the h@@ are YOU talking about. I mean you have SOME nerve...
ok, ok...I can't go on. But will that be enough for the "mean" poster? (I've got to be popular SOMEWHERE)
so here comes patdp very soon.
it's not as bad as ipalfatn i & ii, but still its based on the idea of 607 and 1914.. how have any of you ex or current book study overseers handled this problem.
i'd like not to conduct but thats not really an option.
IP...I don't know if anyone has already suggest this. But I'm reading a book called "Approaching Jehovah's Witnesses in Love" by Wilbur Lingle (How to Witness Effectively Without Arguing). It's been very helpful. I've used some of the techniques on my parents and I see their minds spinning.
I understand somewhat of your situation from you posts and from what AA has told me and so I'm not sure if you want to take that chance owning the book. But (from what AA told me) it might help you help your wife.
I feel so bad for you. I'm trying not to get DF'd myself long enough to at least plant a nice strong seed in my family. And it's hard because I HATE lying. But I can't imagine going through what you have to go through.
btw-it's hard to get this book so you may have to order it from a popular book store (such as B&N). I can also pass the book on to you once I'm finished with it.
hillary_step recommended in his own little way that i get the ball rolling on this subject.
so here goes: minimus and hillary are on the list.
I know James Bond. You sir, are no James Bond.
It's a common occurrence that I lol from reading anything that minimus posts. You're too funny mini. I just read this and lol and my son asked...mom, what's funny? "Oh, honey, mini is funny" (a puzzled look on my son's face)
btw Orangefatcat I like your avatar. AA said that you've used it before, but he's been on longer than I have and I don't think I've seen it yet. I like it the best out of all them so far.
this should be interesting and fun.. i'm going to get involved in helping my sister with the appeal meeting.
i'm going to call brooklyn and ask them if a person is accused of apostacy and was brought to the elders on that charge but it was determined that there was "repentence".
can elders df on the second time even if that person says sorry...shouldn't the scripture in titus 3:10 apply to this situatioin where it says "as for a man that promotes a sect, reject him after a first and a second admonition"?.
This should be interesting and fun.
I'm going to get involved in helping my sister with the appeal meeting. I'm going to call Brooklyn and ask them if a person is accused of apostacy and was brought to the elders on that charge but it was determined that there was "repentence". Can elders DF on the second time even if that person says sorry...shouldn't the scripture in Titus 3:10 apply to this situatioin where it says "As for a man that promotes a sect, reject him AFTER a first AND a second admonition"?
Then I'll hold that information until we meet with the appeal committee and when they "give me hassle" I can then show that they ARE wrong in this.
Now, I will probably have a JC meeting for me formed because of being "rebellious" but I won't go. And I will more than likely get DF'd. That would be all too fun.
What do ya think?
FF
i'm really concerned for my sister and her husband.
they both got df'd last thurs.
and i found out today cause my mom called crying histerically telling me the news.
Actually Jez...that's a good idea. I have some time to think this through. But wouldn't it be interesting to be DF'd because of supporting my sister. Wouldn't it be MORE interesting if she didn't get DF'd and I did for helping. Let me discuss this with AA.
Oh...I can see some fun to be had here and at the same time doing a good deed. (heehee)
i'm really concerned for my sister and her husband.
they both got df'd last thurs.
and i found out today cause my mom called crying histerically telling me the news.
It's hard to thank everyone individually. But each one of you are VERY appreciated. Thanks for the support.
So for all of you .... THANK YOU!
i'm really concerned for my sister and her husband.
they both got df'd last thurs.
and i found out today cause my mom called crying histerically telling me the news.
Oh...and BTW when I started this post I was told that she WAS DF'd. But that was because mom told her that she was. Come to find out, it hadn't been announced yet. So I told her that she is not to be shunned yet. Not until they actually announce it.
My parents gets so many things so confused even for a JW. I've been able to prove on many occasions that what I have said proves to be true. You would think they'd see that I wasn't just talking out my butt.
For example. They were arguing with me one day that Jer. 10:1-5 referred to the Christmas tree. I had to pull out the WT and find that article where even the society doesn't believe that. FINALLY I was able to make them see. Now it's "Yeah, but the very first thing that it says is to not follow after the customs". We just go round and round because JW's have many customs...such as ushers and bridesmaids (which have origins of evil spirits).
The other thing I proved I wasn't just making things up was that the WTBTS did indeed have a "membership" with the United Nations. But that was after I called the Branch with mom there and they did confirm it. They were all squirmy with it and beating around the bush saying things like "well, it wasn't exactly a membership. I pinned them down and asked was anything "signed". They did admit to it (because they had to). So my point to my parents was if THEY can sign ANYTHING that was related to the UN, then why can't we sign in at the YMCA to just use their pool. I'm accused of twisting things around to my benefit.
i'm really concerned for my sister and her husband.
they both got df'd last thurs.
and i found out today cause my mom called crying histerically telling me the news.
Thanks Holly you're too sweet...
Update.
I drove to my sisters last night and told her she CAN appeal if she wants. It's about 2 hours for me...and only 20 mins for my parents. They (elders) had told her about the appeal, but because of her limited mental ability she wasn't sure how to get one written. They told her that she had to SEND it to ONE elder.
I'm calling her today to help her write the appeal letter and then I'm going to suggest her to take it to each of the elders and HAND it to them. She kept saying that they said to send it to this one elder. I just know that if she does it that way, it will "accidentally (on purpose)" get lost or not there in time. I also told her that we will rehearse before she goes to the appeal committee. She told me that they told her NOT to rehearse. I reminded her, though, "what do you think THEY do? They don't just walk in all together not knowing what each other is going to talk about. They talk to each other BEFORE the meeting...so why can't you?" I warned her not to tell them that she rehearsed.
I don't think the appeal will work because she will be up against the CO and 3 more elders. They will pull out big words for her.
On one hand I want the appeal to work because she is dependent on my parents. But then again, I hope it doesn't because I want her out for good. It will be so hard for me to help her since I live so far away. I can help by phone, but to just get up and drive there all the time with having a baby and home schooling my kid...that's a lot of responsibility on me.
She asked me if *I* was going to shun her and I told her I would never do that. It's not a loving thing to do. As she was crying she said "you know, even after I "told" on you, you are the only one that has been trying to help me. You are the only one that has been showing true love".
dear concerned forum posters:
i feel at this time, in my long and varied career here at the forum, i must protest to the exalted and respected administator of this site, that a problem does exist in it's "labeling" of posters.
this concerns the titles that are given to posters when they reach a certain amount of posts.
I read through this whole thread and I'm still laughing. You guys are just too fun.
