Hi Disneycuty,
Congratulations. I am very happy that you have found your (and our) Lord and Savior.
Borgfree
"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
i just sent disassociated letter to my congregation after spending 26 years of my life as a jehovah's witness.
i am a newbie to this chat forum and i am happy to be part of this forum.
let me tell you a little background about myself.
Hi Disneycuty,
Congratulations. I am very happy that you have found your (and our) Lord and Savior.
Borgfree
"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .
we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.
we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .
IMHO
Romans 3:10-12 Amphlified Bible:
"As it is written, None is righteous, just and truthful and upright and conscientious, no, not one. No one understands - no one intelligently discerns or comprehends; no one seeks out God. All have turned aside; together they have gone wrong and have become unprofitable and worthless; no one does right, not even one!"
I think that scripture should humble all of us, Christian, JW, or otherwise.
Borgfree
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .
we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.
we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .
Sleepy,
The "Faithful and Discreet Slave" aka "Unfaithful Indiscreet Slavemaker Class" claims to provide the "food at the proper time" That food coming from the bible is certainly good and benificial. But The "FDS" mixes deadly poison with the food. That makes them guilty, but, the average JW, even though they may be fooled, still carries that poisoned food to everyone they can. There is some responsibility on them also. (most of my family, children,grandchildren, sisters, their families, etc. are still JWs)
Borgfree
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
i was df'd 6 months ago for smoking cigarettes.
i really reached out for help but had a hard time breaking the habit.
maybe i should have been disfellowshipped, according to why it is done.
Iwish4truth,
I am very glad you are free of the unscriptural control of the WT. Use your freedom to really research the WT, you will then be free forever.
YoYoMama,
One of my favorite quotes. I will use the NWT but my preference is the Amplified Bible:
John 16:2,3 (2) Men will expel you from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone that kills you will IMAGINE he has rendered a sacred service to God. (3) But they will do these things because they have not come to know EITHER the Father or Me.
[Emphesis mine - capitolized (me) to honor our Saviour]
Borgfree
"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
i was talking on the phone about a week ago with a poster from this forum, and when he found out i was from south bend, indiana, he asked me if i had gotten together with the group of indiana posters that were having a small gathering (around bloomington i think?).
the truth is, i havent had one-on-one contact with too many from this board up till now, save some frequent chat room visitors, so i didnt realize we had an indiana following.
after my name appeared on the whos who page, i did get emails from a couple people familiar with the area, but i would like to get in contact with the rest of the indiana posters.
I was born and raised in Richmond, Indiana. Was in a congregation in Indianapolis for a while in my teens. I know some ex's in Indiana. I now live across the border in Ohio.
Borgfree
"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
i am an active jw and was raised as one.
i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.
i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).
Just wondering Scumgrief,
Does Jehovah need his people to be protected from information? I personally think the real truth can stand up against any information. If it cannot then something is very wrong and I want to know what. I too have been where you are, I believed and strongly supported everything coming from the WT. Finally I decided if I have to be protected from information that the entire world can have (in one case Ray Franz' book) then Jehovah must be very weak, I could not believe that or accept that, so I started reading and researching, guess what happened! I am free, as the scripture says, "if the Son sets you free, you are free indeed" Keep an open mind, or maybe, open your mind. May God's Spirit really direct you.
Borgfree
"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
i will start by saying, i am not a part of the ministry sponsoring the convention and i have nothing to gain (materially) by promoting the convention.. when i left the organization, i did not know what i would do, i would not go to 'babylon the great' so i planned to just live my life as best i could.
someone invited me to the 'witnesses now for jesus' convention, i said i would not go, but changed my mind at the last moment and went anyway.
going to that convention changed my life forever.
Bboyneko,
This will be my 9th year attending the convention, I speak from experience. How many times have you been there? I would not claim that the convention is anything but Christian centered. I do not consider Christian, Christ or Jesus bad words.
I said you would be welcomed just the way you are and that has been my experience. I will welcome you just the way you are. I cannot promise that everyone there will not try to encourage you to see things their way but I do not know of anyone I have met there who would be pushy to you.
I completely deny your charge of deception on either my part or the part of the website. I mean every word of what I said and I cannot see where you can make a charge of deception about their site when you say very clearly that they state they are Christian, and that Christian testimonies will be given there.
I would not try to force my Christian beliefs on you, I do not think you can make the same claim about your beliefs. Neither would I call, what you hold dear, every name I could come up with.
Borgfree
"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
i will start by saying, i am not a part of the ministry sponsoring the convention and i have nothing to gain (materially) by promoting the convention.. when i left the organization, i did not know what i would do, i would not go to 'babylon the great' so i planned to just live my life as best i could.
someone invited me to the 'witnesses now for jesus' convention, i said i would not go, but changed my mind at the last moment and went anyway.
going to that convention changed my life forever.
Hi Badwillie,
I am not real sure. We used to go to NY from the convention to picket for a few hours. We would stop by Philadelphia to pick up some ex's, I think it was about an hours drive. The convention is between New Ringgold and Snyders PA on RT 895. Hope to see you there.
Borgfree
"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
i will start by saying, i am not a part of the ministry sponsoring the convention and i have nothing to gain (materially) by promoting the convention.. when i left the organization, i did not know what i would do, i would not go to 'babylon the great' so i planned to just live my life as best i could.
someone invited me to the 'witnesses now for jesus' convention, i said i would not go, but changed my mind at the last moment and went anyway.
going to that convention changed my life forever.
Just wanted to bring this up again for the sake of Badwillie and Truth especially, and others. I am leaving for Pennsylvania tonight after work and would really like to see some of you there.
Borgfree
"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB
my wife and i met with 3 elders for a "judicial hearing".. our crime: simply put, was talking.
i showed a friend the un website where the wts was listed as an ngo which then led to a 2 hour discussion of various doubts that we both have had.
my wife also showed a friend the un thing but also discussed with her a first hand account of a pedophile cover-up that we knew about in our former congregation.
Hi Badwillie,
I will not express sorrow or regret for you. I am thrilled for you. I congradulate you and your wife. It may be a little hard now but you are headed for a great freedom. Bless you both.
"You can fool some of the people all of the time" especially if you are a member of the WT GB